Harry’s over for a Court case but not to see his Papa. 🤔

Well no, the Kings protection is guaranteed, whatever he does they go with him - unless you mean from his son, which is a different sort of protection?

I feel troubled for him, he seems to be in a dark, lonely place,
I feel much sympathy for Charles, he has been judged so harshly for so long

The cost of security in America for a private visit for the King !

It's the children I feel sorry for, having two parents like this...

Anniebach

The cost of security in America for a private visit for the King !

I know, but if Harry wants to extend an olive branch he could ask him, at least - the King has the money to pay, should he want to go.

Harry blames most of his problems on his childhood. Does he not realise that before too long his own children are going to question theirs?

They have no extended family at all.

The children in the royal family certainly have companions , one sees William with Zara and Peter, the York sisters too.

I think the rift is more between William and Harry. King Charles is not well and is stepping back from it all, but Harry was always closer to his mother and being much younger when she died, it affected him more, I think.

It is always hard for the "spare" to find a fulfilling role and one that brings home the bacon. King Charles has enough money to deal with that, and indeed to pay for protection for his son's visits, but he is aware that Harry will have to make his own way when he is gone.
However, Harry is a high profile son of our King and his tour in Afghanistan makes him quite a target and we as a nation should be protecting him as a result. I read that a police rep said they are not for hire, when he offered to pay, so how do they police football matches and street events? or are the taxpayer funding that? If so surely we can manage a bit for him?

Football matches and street events do not have trained, armed police officers attending FranP it’s odd Harry can attend numerous court appearances without the security he’s pushing for, is he less of a target than his wife and children? Plenty of people in our Armed Forces made tours of Afghanistan and other volatile regions in the world.

However, Harry is a high profile son of our King and his tour in Afghanistan makes him quite a target and we as a nation should be protecting him as a result.

Harry is only a target because he bragged in his book about "killing 25 taliban like chess pieces taken off the board" whilst serving in Afghanistan. Not only did he put a target on his own back, he put a target on all the soldiers who served with him. A commanding 9fficer sa8d at the time; "That's not how you behave in the Army; it's not how we think."He has badly let the side down. We don't do notches on the rifle butt. We never did."

None of the other serving officers ever felt the need to broadcast what had happened in the line of battle; only him. He let them down, he let the armed forces down and he let the country down. If he's feeling vulnerable now, it's because he couldn't keep his mouth shut.

Andrew was a helicopter pilot in the Falklands war

Did he blab about his time in the Falklands Anniebach?

I struggle to believe Harry's lawyers didn't explain to him the weakness of his case. Basically his security is decided according to policy, not law - it's not complicated.

I'm guessing they couldn't get through to him either and took the money with a shrug of the shoulders. 🤷‍♀️

If visiting his father he would automatically be protected. What he can't do at the moment is swan in and out and have his own private armed team.
I'm sure this is right.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I struggle to believe Harry's lawyers didn't explain to him the weakness of his case. Basically his security is decided according to policy, not law - it's not complicated.

I'm guessing they couldn't get through to him either and took the money with a shrug of the shoulders. 🤷‍♀️

I sort of agree here, he appears very stubborn too.
For me his big problem is that he says too much in these interviews and books. It's OK to have a bit of a tirade about the system, or to even disagree about a law, but to keep dragging his poor dad (grandparents, brother, mother etc) into all his grievances is tiresome and very unfair of him. Shut up with the family stuff!

I noticed he managed to bring his (late) grandmother into the conversation, something to do with the security issue.

He seems to forget that she was very involved at the time of their flounce, and she would have been completely aware of all the security issues that entailed.

They didn’t think it all through, they thought they could swan off to a new life in the States, pop back here whenever it suited to carry out a few hand picked roles ( Ascot, Trooping the Colour, Garter Day, the occasional Christmas at Sandringham maybe) and still benefit from all the privileges of their pseudo royal life, including stopping over at Frogmore on their visits.

And then they whinge and moan when it all didn’t pan out like that.

Charles is the father, Harry is the son, and it is not for him to dictate what the King should do. It was the late Queen Elizabeth who made the decision about Harry's desire to become a part-time royal. Charles is now the head of the royal family and he is maintaining the late Queen's wise decision.

Harry's arrogance in speaking of the affairs of the royal family is staggering but indicative of his weak intellect and poor understanding. He boasts of thirty-five years of service forgetting that for eighteen of those he was a child wasting an extremely privileged education. His only achievement has been eight years of not particularly distinguished service in the army which he left for no apparent reason.

The malevolence behind his intention to involve the PM and the government in his determination to overturn the court rulings is shameful.

I don't believe Harry wants reconciliation; he wants to humiliate his father by forcing him to capitulate over personal protection. He has no intention of returning to royal service, which would mean work, just a restoration of royal status and privilege he considers to be his birthright.

Harry also mentioned he continues to serve!!

How? Doing what exactly??

Maybe he meant self serve.

When he was with the royal family he was the highest risk assessment only the late Queen came close !

I would say he was the highest risk to the royal family.

merlotgran

Harry also mentioned he continues to serve!!

How? Doing what exactly??

Maybe he meant self serve.

I did wonder who or what he is serving!

What a ludicrous statement.

Not even serving Sentebale now!

Allira

merlotgran

Harry also mentioned he continues to serve!!

How? Doing what exactly??

Maybe he meant self serve.

I did wonder who or what he is serving!

What a ludicrous statement.

I thought the same😁
What goes on in Harry’s head isn’t the same as reality.

I feel he is on the brink of something.... dangerous, to try and provoke his father into action, but I don't know what.

The artificial, self-promoting world he inhabits will give him nothing back, but he has cut himself off from all reasonable alternatives.

Quote eazybee Sun 04-May-25 11:03:42
I feel he is on the brink of something.... dangerous, to try and provoke his father into action, but I don't know what.

The artificial, self-promoting world he inhabits will give him nothing back, but he has cut himself off from all reasonable alternatives

Yes, it’s why I said I fear for him, how can he think he was at more risk from harm than the Late Queen, does he truly believe this, is he performing for headlines and front pages ,
is he mentally ill or having tantrums ?