Harry’s over for a Court case but not to see his Papa. 🤔

Oops Chelsy not Chelsea, I agree Allira, he only has the one expression now, face like thunder. We all have to move on from the second child syndrome, I mean I could go on about never having the new bike haunted I am by it, but my lips remain sealed.....as I quietly hum to myself, Second Hand Rose.

It's a shame he didn't meet Chelsea later and not in the first flush of youth, he looked really happy, I think with her there he was a different Harry, plus they both shared a genuine love of Africa.
I used to think that, Terribull, as he did seem to be very happy with Chelsy. However, as he approached middle age he might still have become a disgruntled, unhappy man, constantly harping on about hard done by he is, and thankfully for her she has been spared that. Who can blame her for deciding marriage to Harry was not for her.
I hope she is very happy and content with her life now.

Yes, H&M are the exception that proves the rule - and the results prove what a mistake it is to rely only on advisors that agree with you.

MOnica both Meghan and Harry have parted ways with significant members of key staff in the last couple of years.

I think the moaning set in prior to Meghan, she just knows how to elevate it and has weaponised perceived, slights and grudges against his family, the whingy 'spare' crap. Disrespectful courtiers, everything to do with "the firm" whilst adding into the mix her very own specialities "racism", "i feel suicidal" in this grey, gloomy country where I can't do things my way and speak my truth" Before she came on the scene, Cressida Bonas painted a dreary courtship with Harry, walking several paces behind whilst he raged about his father and life generally. It's a shame he didn't meet Chelsea later and not in the first flush of youth, he looked really happy, I think with her there he was a different Harry, plus they both shared a genuine love of Africa.

Speaking of "not taking advice"; it's been reported that, despite Harry being so worried about the security when he's here that he can't expose his family to the ever present risks, he felt it was well worth the risk last year to have a random Deliveroo driver pitch up at his friend's house and deliver his takeaway. Thick as mince.

Andrew gave one disastrous interview, Harry gave Oprah, countless tv interviews, and Netflix

Jaxjacky

Mumlovesclangers I think any advisors are there to tell them both what they want to hear, paid sycophants

I would disagree with that. More to the point is that advisors do just that - advise. They cannot make the person they are advising follow their advice. The more self-willed and obtuse members of the RF - Andrew and Harry - chose to ignore the advice to their cost. Other members of the family listen to advice and usually follow it.

Anniebach

Agree Merlot and the question - why leave the Ritz late at night knowing the paps were waiting , fun trying to outrun the paps ?

I never understood at the time what the problem was with just letting the journalists have a photo. I get it must be really difficult having privacy invaded all the time but wouldn’t the journalists have buggered off and left them alone once they had a photo? So tragic.
Jaxjacky yes I think you’re right that’s the only explanation. I remember that one of Andrew’s advisors quit over his intent to do the Emily Maitlis interview

Agree Merlot and the question - why leave the Ritz late at night knowing the paps were waiting , fun trying to outrun the paps ?

Mumlovesclangers I think any advisors are there to tell them both what they want to hear, paid sycophants

Harry cannot accept that his mother was killed in a speeding car with a drunk driver at the wheel. Dodo Fayed was out of his depth when it came to avoiding paparazzi and Diana had ditched her round the clock royal protection because she was convinced it would invade her privacy. She would probably be alive today if she hadn’t done that.

His hatred of the press is irrational given that he is now making even more mistakes than his mother ever did. She knew how to charm everyone, even her detractors.

Everyone is tiring of Harry’s scowling, charmless expressions and his endless complaints.

I agree with you, but I meant previous to this going back years now really since he got with Megan. He obviously wasn’t a big fan of the press due to what happened with his mother. He’s not helped himself since at all.

The press have been right in the criticism of his BBC interview

Allira

^There's a lot of red hair in the Spencer family.^
Yes, there is - Diana had two red-headed siblings to name just two.

The James Hewitt rumours have always been about, but Diana didn’t know Hewitt until after Harry was born. Also if you look at photos of Prince Philip when he was a young man , Harry (although not as handsome as Philip) looks quite like him. Plus Diana’s brother is ginger or was.
I think the whole situation is very sad for Charles particularly as he’s ill and must want to see some sort of reconciliation before he dies. I think Harry has made some really really stupid decisions(the book, the Opera Winfrey interview etc etc statement about how many Taliban men he killed) if he has advisors he’s obviously not listening to him. All that said I do think the British press has it in for him as he challenged them.

Carlotta

I'd pay good money to watch Harry being interviewed by Emily Maitlis. He'd be toast!

Apparently, the woman behind the interview is Meghan’s biggest cheerleader and chief of communications for their Archewell Foundation (whatever that is)

The interview is being reviewed as a disaster.

She’ll definitely be toast! 😂

He is surely the architect of his own (perceived) misfortune. He does seem to seek the limelight, contrary to his stated wish for anonymity. A thorn in the side of the RF for sure.

I'd pay good money to watch Harry being interviewed by Emily Maitlis. He'd be toast!

Totally agree eazybee.

The whole interview was an exercise in passive aggression.

Prince Harry is not the first European royal to choose to leave their respective royal family and seek an ordinary life, usually in the USA. All of them, bar him, have done exactly what they said they would do. Settled down quietly in a pleasant house somewhere and they and, usually, non-royal spouse then have jobs and are part of the ordinary community. They make visits home to see their families - they are not estranged - and no one takes much notice, and they need very little security.

If Prince Harry and spouse had followed his fellow-royal's example and settled down quietly somewhere in Hollywood, where his wife could have resumed her low key acting career, while he busied himself with some useful occupation. He has a substantial fortune, so there would be no danger of poverty knocking on the door. He would soon have drifted into that anonymity he claims he wants so much and would have been able to visit the UK, with or without his family, with just the level of security currently on offer.

Agree eazybee 👏

I doubt if Harry regrets a single word. The interview struck me as well-prepared, possibly rehearsed, with the anodyne interviewer feeding him openings until I was longing for Emily Maitlis to appear. He was clearly enjoying it, particularly towards the end, his eyes glittering with malice as he proposed calling the Government to intervene on his behalf. He is attention-seeking as his wife.

But I can't improve on FGT's final comment.

Quote M0nica Sun 04-May-25 15:47:16
FriedGreenTomatoes2
I also think Harry was ill advised (or ignored good advice) by agreeing to that BBC interview hot from the decision of the Court. He will have felt irritated/hurt/emotional. I think he’d have been better ‘sleeping on it’ and having a period of quiet reflection to gather his thoughts before agreeing to an interview. I bet even today, he regrets some of what he said.
I doubt if he regrets a word of that interview. Remember he shares half his genes with his uncle, Andrew, who still cannot see why his interview with Emily Maitlis was such a disaster.

For both of them a combination of arrant privilege and stupidity. Just that one once had the gift of charm and the other didn't.

Unfair, Andrew gave one interview ,not countless, he didn’t
attack his family or those who work for the family. There was
Diana

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I also think Harry was ill advised (or ignored good advice) by agreeing to that BBC interview hot from the decision of the Court. He will have felt irritated/hurt/emotional. I think he’d have been better ‘sleeping on it’ and having a period of quiet reflection to gather his thoughts before agreeing to an interview. I bet even today, he regrets some of what he said.

I doubt if he regrets a word of that interview. Remember he shares half his genes with his uncle, Andrew, who still cannot see why his interview with Emily Maitlis was such a disaster.

For both of them a combination of arrant privilege and stupidity. Just that one once had the gift of charm and the other didn't.

I also think Harry was ill advised (or ignored good advice) by agreeing to that BBC interview hot from the decision of the Court. He will have felt irritated/hurt/emotional. I think he’d have been better ‘sleeping on it’ and having a period of quiet reflection to gather his thoughts before agreeing to an interview. I bet even today, he regrets some of what he said.

Anniebach

Hope they shut up on VE Day this week, King,Queen, Prince
and Princess of Wales taking large part in celebrations and appearing on the Balcony

Well we can wait and see if the media /H&M come up with something else attention seeking for that occasion.

There is a rumour that they do that sort of thing, e.g. Charlotte’s birthday/Harry’s pity fest.