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A different kind of war? Cyber attacks to decimate economies?

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Casdon Mon 28-Apr-25 15:17:05

Explanation for the outage in Portugal and Spain.
news.sky.com/story/spain-portugal-power-outage-latest-large-parts-of-countries-affected-with-traffic-lights-not-working-and-phone-lines-down-13357538?postid=9504891#liveblog-body
It’s strange, and I don’t know if it’s connected in any way, but I said to my son this morning to look at the sky - the plane tracks were all over the place, they must have been there for many hours, because there were about 100 of them. I’ve never seen that before (Cardiff airport is not busy).

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 28-Apr-25 14:42:57

Are we next? Is this just a rehearsal?

Have we got candles at the ready?
A fully charged mobile today?
Fuel in the car?
A battery operated radio?

✔️

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 28-Apr-25 14:32:20

Sweden and Finland issued booklets to their citizens with info about possible emergencies - such as war- and suggest 72 hours at least of stocks of food, water, etc. ( and you may not have noticed that the NHS updated its info on iodine tablet distributions (re nuclear 'incident') in December last) ....

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 28-Apr-25 13:43:38

I just hope my sister has her mobile phone charged up. She’s up in the hills with a poorly husband.

Beechnut Mon 28-Apr-25 13:42:37

The M4 and M48 bridges crossing the Severn are free to cross.

petra Mon 28-Apr-25 13:38:14

Neither of the above. It’s companies, governments etc taking their eye off the ball where cyber security is concerned.
And then there’s always a few who don’t want to pay to get problems fixed.

RosieandherMaw Mon 28-Apr-25 13:35:22

I have said before now (but the politicians took no notice) that it’s not nuclear warfare that we need to fear - the country can be brought to its knees much more easily by paralysing our computer systems. We have had several ‘trial runs” - air travel brought to a halt because the computer systems at Gatwick, Heathrow etc went down, logistics and road services- when all the motorway signs and the automatic payment at eg the Dartford crossing, have gone down, likewise the Severn bridge, M6 toll road past Birmingham, etc, paralyse our NHS by taking out (or hacking into) the computer systems at our big hospital, resulting in the cancellation of innumerable operations, blood transfusions or even donations. Paralyse our economy by hacking into the City computer systems and freezing banking (that has happened a few times in the last few months) and now- adding insult to injury, paralyse M&S online shopping, distribution systems and stock control.
Your question is a rhetorical one FGT and the more this country depends on computer systems and foreign energy suppliers the more vulnerable we become. 🤬🤬🤬

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 28-Apr-25 13:22:18

Possibly this is about the complex network switching and balancing - which is likely controlled by software that has been hit.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 28-Apr-25 13:19:24

Spain, Portugal and France have electricity outages today.

My sister who lives in Estapona has no electricity at present and says all RENFE trains in Spain are cancelled.

M&S here in the UK are experiencing a 3rd day of cyber malware affecting on line ordering which has cost the company £800 million so far.

What are your thoughts?
Is this Putin/China hackers showing us what is possible?