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Electing a new Pope. The Conclave begins …

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karmalady Thu 08-May-25 11:00:58

Maybe we won`t be getting similar to Pope Francis. A lot of people want to go back to the old ways ie Latin mass and more structure and boundaries.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 08-May-25 10:56:23

Yes I know what you meant. But I couldn’t resist pointing out the misogyny.

rafichagran Thu 08-May-25 10:55:38

I never thought I would be, but I have got interested in this, I was watching CNN about 20 minutes ago, and the interviewer was asking people their thoughts and views, and most said they wanted someone like Pope Francis.

nanna8 Thu 08-May-25 10:54:14

As a means of choosing party leaders I means . Not to not have a vote. Duh !

Whitewavemark2 Thu 08-May-25 10:44:44

nanna8

Be good if they elected Presidents and PMs this way.

Where are 50% of the population in this vote?

nanna8 Thu 08-May-25 10:41:59

Be good if they elected Presidents and PMs this way.

NotSpaghetti Thu 08-May-25 09:39:24

The discussion is possibly "do we want a skilled administrator and leader" or "do we want someone to follow in Pope Francis' path".

So many are new and so I expect they will go for someone more experienced.
I'd rather a radical, personally.

grandMattie Thu 08-May-25 09:33:40

it will be interesting to see if, after about 50 years of "foreign" popes, the Italian will be voted in. To be fair, he is very useful having been in the vatican for many years...

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 08-May-25 09:27:48

A continuity pope makes sense because Francis selected 108 of the 135 cardinals able to vote.

Unsurprisingly, many of these cardinals tend to be more liberal. The College of Cardinals Report shows that, on average, those chosen by Pope Francis have similar stances to him.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 08-May-25 09:21:51

One of our AS was in Rome at the weekend with his wife and young children, he said that you could feel the anticipation in the air.

(Despite being taken to church as a youngster, he is not remotely religious nowadays and is not raising the children to be religious it’s down to them to decide when they are old enough)

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 08-May-25 09:19:24

And yet Terribull apparently the traditionalist Cardinals thought him way too liberal and want a more conservative leaning Pope.

TerriBull Thu 08-May-25 09:16:37

When I cast my mind back to my catholic school days the nuns who taught us were prone to feed us one of the many misnomers we were expected to believe, "God, not chemicals produces the white smoke it demonstrates his miraculous presence" Also omitting to expand on the political manoeuvring and general horse trading going on behind the scenes which only the Cardinals were privy. I think they thought they were keeping us in thrall to the mystique of the church, there was far less transparency back then. Anyway, one thing we can be assured of, the outcome won't be the same as the book hmm Lets hope at least we get a similar Pope to Pope Francis who demonstrated a fair bit of tolerance and humility.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 08-May-25 08:50:00

Day 2

The first conclave yesterday evening came to no decision, as was widely expected due to the tight race. The new pontiff must secure a two-thirds majority.

After waiting longer than anticipated, tens of thousands of faithful watched as black smoke billowed from the chapel’s chimney, signalling that the 133 cardinals had failed to elect Pope Francis’s successor.

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 07-May-25 10:01:42

Indeed FGT. I hope for a man who can lead his flock with compassion and intelligence.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 07-May-25 09:11:40

Interesting times ahead. Whether you believe or not, is immaterial. The Pope holds an extremely important role in the world and does wield influence.