Trump said: “On immigration you better get your act together or you’re not going to have Europe anymore.”

I’m not sure that many refuse to recognise the problems with so many people seeking asylum.

There are several on this thread.

If it’s unpleasant to you MayBee 70, nobody is forcing you to read and respond. You choose to do that.

Nobody begrudges real asylum seekers coming to the UK providing they work, don’t commit crime, integrate.

This situation we have is not that. Far from it.

This thread is imo very very unpleasant...

MayBee70

Oreo

Do you know what the word them means Maybee70?
It means in this case the people under discussion.

Maybe you should read the previous post by wooden spoon Oreo. I’m in no doubt as to how they regard the people arriving here in boats…

That’s just your opinion.
There won’t be many that begrudge real asylum seekers sanctuary here but the numbers now arriving all over Europe have now mushroomed to huge proportions and contain very many who are looking to make more money, economic migrants.Why should they be welcomed?

That would at least mean that the host country, in this case France would pay/ house them prior to us granting or not granting asylum here.
Would France be prepared to do that I wonder.

Oreo

Do you know what the word them means Maybee70?
It means in this case the people under discussion.

Maybe you should read the previous post by wooden spoon Oreo. I’m in no doubt as to how they regard the people arriving here in boats…

woodenspoon

Perhaps if not a room, offer to sponsor one. Befriend them. Have them as an extended family member rather like exchange students. Pop round for a meal, get them integrated into the British way of life. Hmmm.

No? I thought not.

refugeesathome.org/
refugeecommunitykitchen.org/https:// www.roomforrefugees.com/

Oreo

Doodledog

I am happy to have foxes in my country but I don't want them in my home. The same applies to bagpipe players and goodness knows what else.

There is no reason why anyone would feel the need to give a bedroom to everyone and anyone just because they don't feel they are a national threat - that logic is beyond muddled.

The sheer number of people entering the UK in an illegal manner has become a national threat.
Some just refuse to recognise that fact.

I’m not sure that many refuse to recognise the problems with so many people seeking asylum. The issue is how to reduce or stop the numbers arriving from boats or Lorrie’s
Would working with thevFrench or other European countries to enable people to start an asylum application to the UK from France or Germany for examples
We certainly need to speed up processing

As I said earlier, misplaced do-gooding.

Do you know what the word them means Maybee70?
It means in this case the people under discussion.

MayBee70

woodenspoon

Perhaps if not a room, offer to sponsor one. Befriend them. Have them as an extended family member rather like exchange students. Pop round for a meal, get them integrated into the British way of life. Hmmm.

No? I thought not.

Them? It’s almost as if you think of them as an alien race. Or. Dare I say subhuman .

Perhaps they are. Would you be so magnanimous if they decided to blow us up, stab us, get the machetes out. Or would it be some other poor soul who suffers that, just as in the past.

Doodledog

I am happy to have foxes in my country but I don't want them in my home. The same applies to bagpipe players and goodness knows what else.

There is no reason why anyone would feel the need to give a bedroom to everyone and anyone just because they don't feel they are a national threat - that logic is beyond muddled.

I agree. No logic whatsoever.

Perhaps the process could be accelerated?

woodenspoon

Perhaps if not a room, offer to sponsor one. Befriend them. Have them as an extended family member rather like exchange students. Pop round for a meal, get them integrated into the British way of life. Hmmm.

No? I thought not.

Them? It’s almost as if you think of them as an alien race. Or. Dare I say subhuman .

Doodledog

I am happy to have foxes in my country but I don't want them in my home. The same applies to bagpipe players and goodness knows what else.

There is no reason why anyone would feel the need to give a bedroom to everyone and anyone just because they don't feel they are a national threat - that logic is beyond muddled.

The sheer number of people entering the UK in an illegal manner has become a national threat.
Some just refuse to recognise that fact.

Doodledog

I am happy to have foxes in my country but I don't want them in my home. The same applies to bagpipe players and goodness knows what else.

There is no reason why anyone would feel the need to give a bedroom to everyone and anyone just because they don't feel they are a national threat - that logic is beyond muddled.

It wasn’t when we were asked to host Ukrainians though was it, and people jumped at the opportunity.
I wonder why they don’t in this case?

Perhaps if not a room, offer to sponsor one. Befriend them. Have them as an extended family member rather like exchange students. Pop round for a meal, get them integrated into the British way of life. Hmmm.

No? I thought not.

MayBee70

Oreo

All those who don’t mind how many rock up on our shores with no ID may like to offer their own guest bedrooms.
Just a thought.😄

Oh please. Not that old chestnut again.

Oh yes, the old ones are the best ones 😂 and sorts the wheat from the chaff where misplaced do-gooding is concerned.

I have the nagging doubts that so very many are given leave to stay that it’s become the easiest option rather than a proper vetting procedure as to if they are really true asylum seekers.
This problem has become increasingly worrisome for all of Europe in the last twenty years.

Oreo

All those who don’t mind how many rock up on our shores with no ID may like to offer their own guest bedrooms.
Just a thought.😄

Oh please. Not that old chestnut again.

I am happy to have foxes in my country but I don't want them in my home. The same applies to bagpipe players and goodness knows what else.

There is no reason why anyone would feel the need to give a bedroom to everyone and anyone just because they don't feel they are a national threat - that logic is beyond muddled.

25,000 so far this year. 900 yesterday. Mostly men.

woodenspoon

MayBee70

Oreo

They’re mainly economic migrants and everyone knows it.

Do you have proof of that?

Why don’t you prove they’re not? We all know many of them are. All men of fighting age. The odd few families with kids but not many.

I’d vote for Farage, Trump or even Mickey Mouse if it stopped this insanity.

The latest figures I heard say over 70% of those seeking asylum have it granted.

How is that insanity ?

That question doesn’t mean I “love them, the more the merrier “. It simply means I have humanity and respect for international law”

No one is suggesting “something “ doesn’t need to be done, the difficulty is what’s the best way to achieve a reduction /an end in people arriving here and being put up in hotels

I resent the cooking sherry jibe 😁I allow nothing but the finest Amontillado passed my lips.
If putting money where mouths are regarding the ‘oh let all the poor things in’ by giving up a room in your house, as many did for Ukrainians then I’d be impressed.
It won’t happen in this case as quite rightly we don’t know where they come from or what character and so on.Could well be criminal or murder suspects or rapists.
If you won’t have them in your home why be happy for them to be in your country.

StripeyGran

Blimey! Either some of you are on the cooking sherry and/ or losing your remaining marbles.

Can we drop the guest bedroom nonsense please?

You speak for yourself. I’ve not had a drink this evening or many for that matter. As for the guest bedroom nonsense as you put it, they should be offering to house them like the Ukrainians were. But, nobody wants them do they.