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Sarnia Thu 31-Jul-25 16:48:09

Concerning figures out today show that the most popular boy's name in the UK by some margin in 2024 was Mohammed. That underlines the concerns of so many people, surely.

BlueberryPie Thu 31-Jul-25 22:00:19

Calendargirl

Have always disliked my name, it sounds old fashioned for someone my age.

However, I think it would make a good, second name.

Pity the parents of my two GD’s didn’t think of that!

grin

I think Calendar Girl is a lovely name!

Now, about Muslims, I'm of two minds. On the one hand, it's good to be accepting and tolerant. On the other hand, it is a very misogynistic religion. So, should we be tolerant and accepting of unacceptance an intolerance?

growstuff Thu 31-Jul-25 22:25:31

To the people who fear that Muslims are taking over the country:

4661 babies were called Mohammed.
Next was Noah with 4382.
There were 591,072 live births in England and Wales.

4661 is less than 1% of 591,072

Nearly all Muslim boys have Mohammed in their first names.

growstuff Thu 31-Jul-25 22:28:08

Parsley3

I was waiting for this to come up and here it is. The second most popular name, Noah, is from the Bible, isn't it.

Exactly! Oh no! wink Does that mean bible bashers are taking over?

No offence intended - just illustrating a point how misleading a single statistic is.

growstuff Thu 31-Jul-25 22:30:13

Aveline

It's concerning because it's a Muslim name. The UK is not (yet) a Muslim country. Virtue signallers might not be concerned but others are

Nobody should be concerned about anything, based on names.

Kandinsky Thu 31-Jul-25 22:48:51

unless you’re called Nigel or Donald wink

Bukkie Thu 31-Jul-25 22:49:50

Sarnia- I agree with you but being concerned that pensioners lost their fuel allowance last year to fund asylum seekers in hotels, our homeless people sleep on the streets whilst asylum seekers sleep in warm hotels and young girls not being able to walk down the street because of gangs of young men on street corners makes us far right thugs.

whywhywhy Thu 31-Jul-25 22:59:57

Oh no. You poked a hornets nest there. How dare anyone say anything.

growstuff Thu 31-Jul-25 23:04:39

Bukkie

Sarnia- I agree with you but being concerned that pensioners lost their fuel allowance last year to fund asylum seekers in hotels, our homeless people sleep on the streets whilst asylum seekers sleep in warm hotels and young girls not being able to walk down the street because of gangs of young men on street corners makes us far right thugs.

I've read it all now! hmm

Apparently pensioners lost their fuel allowance because fewer than 1% of babies were called Mohammed. wink

LizzieDrip Thu 31-Jul-25 23:06:12

Bukkie

Sarnia- I agree with you but being concerned that pensioners lost their fuel allowance last year to fund asylum seekers in hotels, our homeless people sleep on the streets whilst asylum seekers sleep in warm hotels and young girls not being able to walk down the street because of gangs of young men on street corners makes us far right thugs.

What on earth has any of that got to do with babies born in 2024 given the name Mohammed?

LizzieDrip Thu 31-Jul-25 23:07:03

growstuff crossed postssmile

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 31-Jul-25 23:28:27

Well, if I was going to be picky, I'd point out that Noah is a name from the Old Testament, not the New, so any worries about Bible Bashers ( usually referring to Christians ) can be laid aside.

Allira Thu 31-Jul-25 23:38:40

Noah is top in Wales and Scotland, along with Olivia.

Oreo Thu 31-Jul-25 23:41:58

Chocolatelovinggran

Well, if I was going to be picky, I'd point out that Noah is a name from the Old Testament, not the New, so any worries about Bible Bashers ( usually referring to Christians ) can be laid aside.

Yes it’s a popular Jewish name.

Doodledog Fri 01-Aug-25 00:13:04

If not being concerned about a very small percentage of boys being called Mohammed is 'virtue signalling', what is being signalled by those who are upset by it?

growstuff Fri 01-Aug-25 01:34:14

Chocolatelovinggran

Well, if I was going to be picky, I'd point out that Noah is a name from the Old Testament, not the New, so any worries about Bible Bashers ( usually referring to Christians ) can be laid aside.

My apologies. It was a bad analogy.

growstuff Fri 01-Aug-25 01:34:50

Doodledog

If not being concerned about a very small percentage of boys being called Mohammed is 'virtue signalling', what is being signalled by those who are upset by it?

Not virtue evidently.

PoliticsNerd Fri 01-Aug-25 01:53:26

LizzieDrip

Babs03

Still is handy if you want to stir the pot.

Spot on Babs03

Isn't is just. Which presumably was exactly what the OP was doing. I there defence, a lot do on here.

PoliticsNerd Fri 01-Aug-25 02:35:29

Can you imagine being a grandparent, spotting "Gransnet" as a forum you expect to be welcoming, but on arrival you see that you are not welcomed but treated as unwelcome on here and, by implication in your country, just because of your grandchild's given name?

I can't understand such thread being allowed under GN rules but perhaps, even on here, some are allowed to believe they are more equal than others.

Grammaretto Fri 01-Aug-25 03:12:53

This is under Chat. It should be under Politics.

I have a friend Nigel and a friend Donald and I've only just seen the connection 😂🤣😅
I don't know any Mohammeds.

Names do date. Mine hasn't been in the top 100 for years yet there were 5 in my school class.
When naming my DD, we took ages, wanting to avoid a pretty, girly or "baby" name. She didn't like her name but she does now she's an adult.

M0nica Fri 01-Aug-25 08:11:34

Mohamed is one of 20 names on the 2 lists. I thought the discussion was about. ALL of them, not just one.

I posted an entry near to the start talking about all the girls names, which I notice that no one picked up on, even though I set it up to be provocative.

This thread does reveal a latent racism among many GN members, which is not the same as saying people are racist, because I doubt if many are.

Esmay Fri 01-Aug-25 08:15:49

Not so long ago most English first names came from the Bible .
The same names being repeated in families again and again.
Now names are more diverse and unusual.

Mohammed is an extremely popular name amongst Muslims and their nanes are almost exclusively from the Koran .

whywhywhy Fri 01-Aug-25 08:19:32

Mohammed is a nice name. Why the fuss? There are worse things happening in the world.

Casdon Fri 01-Aug-25 08:21:41

M0nica

Mohamed is one of 20 names on the 2 lists. I thought the discussion was about. ALL of them, not just one.

I posted an entry near to the start talking about all the girls names, which I notice that no one picked up on, even though I set it up to be provocative.

This thread does reveal a latent racism among many GN members, which is not the same as saying people are racist, because I doubt if many are.

I found a list of extinct girls names, I bet the names of many Gransnetters are on here. Fashions change so rapidly, and there’s a trend at the moment for parents to use unusual or made up names, which means no one British names is as prevalent as it used to be amongst newborns.

The following names have been extinct since 1994;

1. Bertha
2. Beverley
3. Carol
4. Carole
5. Doreen
6. Gail
7. Gertrude
8. Gillian
9. Glenys
10. Glynis
11. Hilary
12. Jill
13. Kay
14. Kerry
15. Lesley
16. Lindsay
17. Lyndsey
18. Lynne
19. Lynsey
20. Mandy
21. Maureen
22. Muriel
23. Phyllis

Grammaretto Fri 01-Aug-25 08:27:28

I picked up on your girls' names post M0nica. Hence why I mentioned our struggle to find an un-pretty/baby name for DD.
I was also pleased to have a strong consonant grin

Nell82 Fri 01-Aug-25 08:46:54

Oreo

An interesting question to Christians, in Spain and South America Jesus is a favoured name for a baby boy, pronounced Hayzus I think.
Why isn’t it a favoured name in other Christian countries?

DH was terrified as he was being anaesthetised for a major heart operation. He woke up to a man's voice saying "Hello. I'm Jesus. Would you like a cup of tea?"