1,027 irregular migrants arrive here on rubber boats in the last 24 hours.

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NotSpaghetti

The quote you provided, sparklefizz which starts with "I'm currently in my final year of GP training,"

sounds just like other fabricated stories that have been circulating online. It is not from a reliable or official source. There is no evidence from credible news outlets, government reports, or professional medical bodies that I can find.

I've just run it through Gemini and this is what it says:

​The story has been widely debunked as a hoax or a piece of creative writing designed to spread on social media and forums. The use of specific, unusual, and inflammatory language is a common characteristic of such hoaxes. While the person posting may be a genuine forum user, the story itself is not based on facts.

Just thought I'd share this too.

Sparklefizz. Gemini is not a reliable source. Google it.
If you read what they say “while the person posting may be a genuine forum user, the story itself is not based on facts.”

All that means is they can’t find any facts, or so they say.

CariadAgain

Sparklefizz

I have just read this post online in another group:

I’m currently in my final year of GP training. My GP surgery has been told to allocate time to treat HMOs housing boat men. We now have to block out 20 percent of our NHS appointments to accommodate this request.

One male GP and two of our female GPs have been assaulted while doing the home visits of these men. We’re encouraged not to report this to the police as it will ‘inflame community tensions’.

The partners at the surgery have pushed back, however NHS England have threatened to remove NHS funding if we don’t comply. We’re ‘encouraged’ to deny any of this is happening if asked by patients or the media.

^Please remember this when you can’t get an appointment and pass on the message.^

Crikey! That's the first I've heard of that....I guess the "powers that be" are keeping that one very quiet - as it feels like a whole "step or two" up from assaulting a person in the street and one wonders exactly what happened there. But this is these people assaulting medical personnel who are there specifically to check out/help with their health.

Personally - I'm wondering if the medics concerned can argue back against this in any way, eg "We have no spare capacity to cover that 20%" and "We need chaperones to accompany us all on home visits". After all - I've had a type of health treatment (on my feet - podiatry) back in the 1980s and no problem - as it was just the podiatrist and myself around and neither of us thought a thing of it (whether in the private sector or the NHS). He did the treatment/I said "thank you" etc and Job Done

But these days and needing the same thing again and expecting the same way of dealing with patients/clients again and it's "OOOh....must have a chaperone for their own safety" - even though I'm a short little British woman in her 70's and so hardly likely to be a threat of any description. That applies both in the NHS and private sector - as I've had to go to them both in the process of getting my feet sorted.

So surely the doctors union, etc, could have this raised as an issue?

You should read previous comments, the post was fake news, designed to incite people.

Maremia

Sorry folks, butting in again. Was on the computer, and a post clicked up, (not Facebook), from an article in the Daily Record, saying that Farage is to blame for the small boats, because after BREXIT we lost the right to send then back.
If you click off now, you might find it too.

I don't listen to Farage and try to take a more objective view.

Immigration.

Can we simply keep on taking hundreds of people, every day until there isn't a hotel room, ex militaary base or HMO left? It is disingenuous to say that people are racist when the subject is raised - it is a real concern, or should be, and those who wave banners suggesting immigrants are welcome should think about whether they can help by taking people home. Any reasonable person can see that the country cannot sustain this level of illegal immigaration.

Sorry folks, butting in again. Was on the computer, and a post clicked up, (not Facebook), from an article in the Daily Record, saying that Farage is to blame for the small boats, because after BREXIT we lost the right to send then back.
If you click off now, you might find it too.

Casdon

Mollygo

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’m astonished at how many posters have sent supportive p.ms to me today on this topic. People who agree with many of us on here apparently!

There may be many more who don’t post, unwilling to get the wave of retribution or sneering comments that often follow.

Exactly, particularly those who disagree with FGT’s perspective. It’s always more comfortable to be a reinforcer than a dissenter, whatever the subject.

Exactly, particularly those who disagree with FGT’s perspective

Actually, the Opening Post was straightforward facts as reported by the BBC and other news channels.

Shabana Mahmood has her work cut out.
I agree. She has a huge task ahead of her and I wish her all the best.

Was the number of boats wrong then, Casdon?
Do you disagree with that number?

Mollygo

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’m astonished at how many posters have sent supportive p.ms to me today on this topic. People who agree with many of us on here apparently!

There may be many more who don’t post, unwilling to get the wave of retribution or sneering comments that often follow.

Exactly, particularly those who disagree with FGT’s perspective. It’s always more comfortable to be a reinforcer than a dissenter, whatever the subject.

Sparklefizz

I have just read this post online in another group:

I’m currently in my final year of GP training. My GP surgery has been told to allocate time to treat HMOs housing boat men. We now have to block out 20 percent of our NHS appointments to accommodate this request.

One male GP and two of our female GPs have been assaulted while doing the home visits of these men. We’re encouraged not to report this to the police as it will ‘inflame community tensions’.

The partners at the surgery have pushed back, however NHS England have threatened to remove NHS funding if we don’t comply. We’re ‘encouraged’ to deny any of this is happening if asked by patients or the media.

^Please remember this when you can’t get an appointment and pass on the message.^

Crikey! That's the first I've heard of that....I guess the "powers that be" are keeping that one very quiet - as it feels like a whole "step or two" up from assaulting a person in the street and one wonders exactly what happened there. But this is these people assaulting medical personnel who are there specifically to check out/help with their health.

Personally - I'm wondering if the medics concerned can argue back against this in any way, eg "We have no spare capacity to cover that 20%" and "We need chaperones to accompany us all on home visits". After all - I've had a type of health treatment (on my feet - podiatry) back in the 1980s and no problem - as it was just the podiatrist and myself around and neither of us thought a thing of it (whether in the private sector or the NHS). He did the treatment/I said "thank you" etc and Job Done

But these days and needing the same thing again and expecting the same way of dealing with patients/clients again and it's "OOOh....must have a chaperone for their own safety" - even though I'm a short little British woman in her 70's and so hardly likely to be a threat of any description. That applies both in the NHS and private sector - as I've had to go to them both in the process of getting my feet sorted.

So surely the doctors union, etc, could have this raised as an issue?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’m astonished at how many posters have sent supportive p.ms to me today on this topic. People who agree with many of us on here apparently!

There may be many more who don’t post, unwilling to get the wave of retribution or sneering comments that often follow.

I doubt whether I would be allowed entry to another country having destroyed my passport and any other identification, being housed in a decent hotel, given three square meals a day, pocket money and access to a GP and dentist. No wonder they arrive here by the boatload as we are such a soft touch.

I don’t believe that is the case Mt61. Groundhog Day posts never generate the same level of debate as those about new topics.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I’m astonished at how many posters have sent supportive p.ms to me today on this topic. People who agree with many of us on here apparently!

There are more on here that support you FGT, than not 👍🏻 just too frightened to say what they really think.

Keep posting FGT!!!

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Okay.
I won’t mention the huge numbers anymore. You all must think it’s acceptable, not worth mentioning - and that we can afford accommodation, 3 meals a day, clothes, a doctor and dentist on tap plus extras for all who wish to arrive.

I’m in the minority on here then, which I shall now accept. Not a peep from me going forward concerning this topic. 🤷‍♀️

You're not in the minority. My impression is that maybe it's about 50/50 on here re this.

I've just seen a table on Facebook about how much in debt each country is per citizen. Wow...just wow at Ireland's £600,000 plus per person (and yep they seem to be the worst affected by all this going on - as a friend of mine living in southern Ireland would confirm).

Can't recall whether it was down as "Britain" or "England" that has a debt of around £150,000 per person (in other words about the price of a basic house each). That's already - so just how many more people want to dip into "our" pockets that haven't paid into "our" bank account so to say? If there are some magic money trees in the country then I'm sure many of us would like to know just where they are - as the trees growing in my own garden are fruit trees and not "money trees". I admit to being gobsmacked at waltzing into someone else's country and holding your hand out going "Gimme"...when you've not paid in to take out.

As my father used to put it when I was growing up "Whilst you're a child I'm paying in for you - with taxes/National Insurance etc that I pay. When you grow up you will be paying for yourself from taxes/National Insurance on what you earn - it will be your responsibility to put in...because you will be taking out".

True Allira, I’m puzzled as to why people from Pakistan need to seek sanctuary here. Especially as in northern former mill towns large extended families with Pakistani heritage are well established so often relatives join

Whitewavemark2

Perhaps you could quote a post defending the male immigrants.

The majority of young men are Afghans fleeing from the Taliban. Many of them worked with our troops helping to protect them. The come to the U.K. because of their connection with our troops, the fact that they speak English and of course possible family connections.

The U.K. receives far fewer applications for asylum than France or Germany. We are not being overrun - we are just being told we are.

One real issue is that asylum seekers are not allowed to work whilst they are waiting for their application to be processed, so of course it means that the government has to oversee their welfare, from housing to feeding to education to safety.

When I said that the post was toxic, I later qualified it by suggesting that the day after day week after week of drip feed of moral panic contributes to the toxic atmosphere we find ourselves in.

Migration isn’t the panic, but fear mongering is. The more angry people get about migrants, the more clicks and shares these+posts get.

But it doesn’t mean that it is the full picture or even the correct one.

What we must realise is that SM rewards outrage. The more angrier a headline makes people the more clicks it gets.

But that does not mean it is true.

But what the SM and MSM and some politicians have learned that even if the headline is proven entirely untrue that it will “stick” with those people way down the rabbit hole of moral panic.

The latest pearl is Trumps “black children are natural killers”

Outrageous lie of course, but it will stick with sufficient people for it to become a meme that will get sufficient traction to add to the already toxicity in the hall of division and hate.

The majority of young men are Afghans fleeing from the Taliban. Many of them worked with our troops helping to protect them. The come to the U.K. because of their connection with our troops, the fact that they speak English and of course possible family connections.

No, not the majority - that is not how percentages work.

About 19% were known to be individuals from Afghanistan in 2024.
19% might be the largest percentage out of all nationalities but that does not constitute a majority.
Some, not all, are in danger because they helped British forces or were soldiers themselves, fighting the Taliban.

In fact, Pakistani nationals are now the most numerous seeking asylum here, and Iranian people too.

Oh dear

The Trump meme was merely an example of the way toxic debate grows and influences.

How about meme /tropes we find in the U.K.?

Danger to our women is one which echoes many used in the past line “the Irish brute” or the US south’s “black rapist”
swarm/invasion
Stealing your jobs
cultural replacement
criminality
Living in luxury

They work because they play on powerful emotional reactions like fear, disgust and unfairness, by stripping immigrants of their humanity and individuality.

They are short and just right for spreading on SM

Sorry SueinEspana, those people are asylum seekers until their asylum plea is accepted or rejected.
If rejected, that is when they become illegal immigrants.
Hope this helps.

May I quote the well known comment?
'People who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.'
Hitler is brought up, on this and other threads, because some GNs can see a pattern emerging, which is similar to the events in the 1930's.

Sorry, but you're wrong FriedGreenTomatoes2. These arrivals are not 'irregular' immigrants, they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, not fleeing war torn countries (no war in France). Just coming to soft touch UK for housing & benefits, courtesy of the British taxpayer!

It seems that posters are just going around in circles.

With so many clever folk on here (no, I am not being sarcastic, there is a wealth of exprience) how do we stop the boats in a legal and humane way?