1,027 irregular migrants arrive here on rubber boats in the last 24 hours.

Why does nobody start a thread when nobody arrives?

Kandinsky

FGT - please keep posting these shocking FACTS - it’s actually frightening now how many young males are arriving here this way. Something has to be done about this ASAP.

And ignore the usual suspects who follow you around saying you’re scaremongering, they’ve clearly got their own agenda.

You'd better get down to the coast with your spear! Pronto!

PS. Am looking for an agenda somewhere. Any idea what it might look like, to help me find it?

keepingquiet

The number of people arriving in small boats this last month (August) has decreased for the first time, and this is the height of summer.

That’s because of the very strong winds we’ve had in August.

Not a peep from me going forward concerning this topic

Fair enough FGT. I’ll take over.

The number of people arriving in small boats this last month (August) has decreased for the first time, and this is the height of summer.

FGT - please keep posting these shocking FACTS - it’s actually frightening now how many young males are arriving here this way. Something has to be done about this ASAP.

And ignore the usual suspects who follow you around saying you’re scaremongering, they’ve clearly got their own agenda.

Not a peep from me going forward concerning this topic.

Thank you FriedGreenTomatoes

It is also heading BBC breakfast news, ahead of Ukraine, The cable car accident in Lisbon and everything else…

We currently have three threads on Angela Rayner.

How many threads were there on Brexit?

How many threads on Boris Johnson?

How many threads on Covid?

FGT2 has posted what is/was on every news programme last night.

Nobody is forced to read every thread, I am not a knitter nor am I into arts and crafts or games so I just do not bother to read them, simples…

How did Australia deal with these issues several years ago?

I know they didn’t have little rubber dinghies arriving, but they did have larger boats coming in.

Well, they adopted a zero tolerance approach to illegal migration, or whatever you want to call it, ‘Operation Resolute’ I think it was named, clue in the last word.

Result, subsequent governments have carried on with the same system, and it works.

Time we did something similar.

FGT Please don't stop posting on this serious invasion of our shores because that is certainly what it is. All fit young men of fighting age with sexual needs leaving behind womenfolk. I fear for my grandchildren and other young girls, not to mention when they band together and turn against us. Controlled legal immigration fine, illegal immigration not.

If people cannot see the parallels between the rhetoric and in the USA actions, now and the early 30s in Germany, then they are either ignorant of European history or in denial.

The reason Hitler's Germany is quoted is because the era is just about within living memory and it's an example of humanity going horribly wrong - caused by humans themselves. It should act as a warning to us all.

Teazel2

growstuff

Teazel2

BlueBelle

This is in CHAT, GrannyGravy and FGT has bandied her anti immigration views to death so yes I was rude, sorry to offend you, but I m tired of it all

Oh Frogoet how I agree with your post
Our local hospital is so proud of the fact that the staff there come from 52 different countries and I ll tell you what I ve never had a nasty nurse, cleaner or doctor in that hospital
My dentists so far have come from Greece, South America Hungary and India
Why is everyone so scared, this country was built on immigration.
I have absolutely no problem with sending criminals right back where they came from and they can take some of our home grown variety back with them but this awful awful position of hate we are in now screams of Hitler s white blond haired regime think of that more closely and remember what followed

Why do you quote Hitler? Its rather obsessional.

Unfortunately, in 1932 Germans dismissed concern about Hitler as obsessional - just as you are doing.

I so wish that Hitler would not keep being quoted as some sort of example. An example of what exactly? Are you suggesting that those of us worried about illegal immigration are comparable to Hitler?

I'm suggesting that the propaganda techniques used to scare people are similar.

nanna8

So you would just allow anyone into the country who claimed to be an asylum seeker then ? Without any checking, without any questions asked? Never mind that they have jumped a queue and are probably making the queue even longer for genuine people who have been oppressed and possibly tortured . Madness.

Where does it say that the Human Rights Act allows anybody into the country? It doesn't!! This is a straw man argument.

So you would just allow anyone into the country who claimed to be an asylum seeker then ? Without any checking, without any questions asked? Never mind that they have jumped a queue and are probably making the queue even longer for genuine people who have been oppressed and possibly tortured . Madness.

Farage wants to abolish the UK Human Rights Act 1998.

These are our rights under the act.

1. The right to life
2. The right to be free from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
3. The right to be free from slavery or forced labour
4. The right to liberty and security
5. The right to a fair trial
6. The right not to be punished for something that wasn't against the law when you did it
7. The right to respect for private and family life, home and correspondence
8. The right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion
9. The right to freedom of expression
10. The right to freedom of assembly and association
11. The right to marry and start a family
12. The right to be free from discrimination
13. The right to peaceful enjoyment of possessions
14. The right to education
15. The right to free elections
16. Abolition of the death penalty

Farage wants to take all these away.

Take 15 minutes to watch Richard Murphy explain and expand on how we will all be affected if Farage ever comes to power.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt0fB-5S388

If you cannot imagine how the removal of these rights might affect you then read the examples given by the British Institute of Human Rights under each section headed How might this right be relevant to my life?

www.bihr.org.uk/get-informed/what-rights-do-i-have

If you cannot see the parallels with Hitler (and Trump) you are deluding yourself.

*It’s the truth, the numbers arriving are not sustainable.

Keep stating the facts FGT, many do agree with you.*

Agree 100%

growstuff

Teazel2

BlueBelle

This is in CHAT, GrannyGravy and FGT has bandied her anti immigration views to death so yes I was rude, sorry to offend you, but I m tired of it all

Oh Frogoet how I agree with your post
Our local hospital is so proud of the fact that the staff there come from 52 different countries and I ll tell you what I ve never had a nasty nurse, cleaner or doctor in that hospital
My dentists so far have come from Greece, South America Hungary and India
Why is everyone so scared, this country was built on immigration.
I have absolutely no problem with sending criminals right back where they came from and they can take some of our home grown variety back with them but this awful awful position of hate we are in now screams of Hitler s white blond haired regime think of that more closely and remember what followed

Why do you quote Hitler? Its rather obsessional.

Unfortunately, in 1932 Germans dismissed concern about Hitler as obsessional - just as you are doing.

I so wish that Hitler would not keep being quoted as some sort of example. An example of what exactly? Are you suggesting that those of us worried about illegal immigration are comparable to Hitler?

Frogoet

As to going back to Hitler-it’s tge perfect example of scapegoating which is going on in this thread. ‘They will turn against us’. Have you met any? Spoken to them.
With leave to stay they are exploited by low paid industry,

I feel its not acceptable to keep quoting Hitler just to try to induce some sort of guilt.

MayBee70

Oh please stop banging on about liberal lefties. Most of those of us that are being branded as such are just left of centre. And I can see that there’s a problem. It’s just that I don’t actually want to lose my human rights in an attempt to solve a very complicated problem.

Why would you lose your human rights? Even if we left the ECHR you would still have your human rights.

As to going back to Hitler-it’s tge perfect example of scapegoating which is going on in this thread. ‘They will turn against us’. Have you met any? Spoken to them.
With leave to stay they are exploited by low paid industry,

Teazel2

BlueBelle

This is in CHAT, GrannyGravy and FGT has bandied her anti immigration views to death so yes I was rude, sorry to offend you, but I m tired of it all

Oh Frogoet how I agree with your post
Our local hospital is so proud of the fact that the staff there come from 52 different countries and I ll tell you what I ve never had a nasty nurse, cleaner or doctor in that hospital
My dentists so far have come from Greece, South America Hungary and India
Why is everyone so scared, this country was built on immigration.
I have absolutely no problem with sending criminals right back where they came from and they can take some of our home grown variety back with them but this awful awful position of hate we are in now screams of Hitler s white blond haired regime think of that more closely and remember what followed

Why do you quote Hitler? Its rather obsessional.

Unfortunately, in 1932 Germans dismissed concern about Hitler as obsessional - just as you are doing.

Does anyone know what we spend? The official figures show we benefit overall.
As to fixing problems in the countries they come from-
From culture to war they are not fixed by a little aid!
Some of the complexities are here.
Not Farage or Daily Fail.
Net immigration 50%down .
Explains why we have so few doctors in Norfolk. Can’t get a dentist.
Our only crowds are tourists needing second homes.
One of our carers lives in Norwich. More worried about the flag wavers than any migrant. As am I.

Whitewavemark2

BlueBelle

This is in CHAT, GrannyGravy and FGT has bandied her anti immigration views to death so yes I was rude, sorry to offend you, but I m tired of it all

Oh Frogoet how I agree with your post
Our local hospital is so proud of the fact that the staff there come from 52 different countries and I ll tell you what I ve never had a nasty nurse, cleaner or doctor in that hospital
My dentists so far have come from Greece, South America Hungary and India
Why is everyone so scared, this country was built on immigration.
I have absolutely no problem with sending criminals right back where they came from and they can take some of our home grown variety back with them but this awful awful position of hate we are in now screams of Hitler s white blond haired regime think of that more closely and remember what followed

Yes.

One thread is innocent enough, - but it doesn’t stop at one - it is continuous in one form or another.

The continual drip, drip of anti-immigration with an underlying unpleasantness of division, violence, hate, racism and fear, is being reflected in so much of the SM echo chambers and is leading to the kind of society not seen in this country for decades or centuries.

You can see it in the USA with the foul actions being carried out there and although I suspect the Op thoroughly approves of Trump’s actions, I am confident that she would have very little support in this country - for which I am thankful.

Why are you confident? How can you possibly know? Doesnt the popularity of Reform give you a clue that you may be wrong?