The Guardian losing money? Who would have thought?

theworriedwell

Aren't people getting bored with the obsession with trans people? I know I am.

Yet you’ve commented on it.
I’m only bored that some people are still lying that you can change sex, and using that lie to harm others.

Headline from May this year, 'The Guardian slashes losses amid record sales following the Observer deal.'
Always worth doing a wee fact check, isn't it?

Good one IOMGran

theworriedwell

Aren't people getting bored with the obsession with trans people? I know I am.

Mightily bored with it. I am looking forward to the Panto season though. Oh yes I am!

escaped

What colour are they please?
I rather fancy bottle green or cerise this season.

They are definitely this Autumns colours. The greens around a a joy.

Aren't people getting bored with the obsession with trans people? I know I am.

The ‘For Facts’ Sake’ version made me smile as The Guardian still employs Owen Jones and others who think a man in a frock is a woman.

Here are some.

Chocolatelovinggran

I do think that facts are sacred, actually, especially in view of Mr Trump's active repression of facts he doesn't like.
I am astonished by the phrase deeply unpleasant phrase " deluded nonsense". I had an exchange of views on GN over a lie printed by The Telegraph, and was courteous enough to refer to these as " sloppy journalism".
I am not deluded, nor delusional if I choose to read The Guardian.

👍👏👏👏👏

Magenta8

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Our eldest daughter subscribes to The Guardian. We’ve had some pretty feisty opinion swaps at times over the years! We are still close though. Blood is thicker than newspaper print. 😁

Does your eldest DD know about this thread you started FGT2? If she finds out be afraid, very afraid.

😂 indeed Magenta!

growstuff

Casdon

Mollygo

I’d really like everything people say about the DT publishing inaccuracies to be true, when I read this
Rachel Reeves has been told to mount a £6bn tax raid on pensioners, landlords and the self-employed by the most influential think tank within Labour

Read Tim Wallace's whole report below 👇

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/09/23/labour-favourite-think-tank-demands-tax-raid-on-pensioners/

Please let it be an inaccuracy.

It isn’t welcome news for many people, whatever any government ever does in a budget. I find though that it always helps to read the same information from different sources. It’s the spin that distorts. At this stage it’s all speculation though, obviously.

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-15123195/Labours-favourite-think-tank-calls-income-tax-hike-30bn-raid-firms-say-pain.html

I assume you know that "thisismoney.co.uk" is owned by DMG Media, which is a subsidiary of the Daily Mail.

Yes, the point I was making is that every media outlet chooses what to emphasise, and what to speculate might happen.

Casdon

Mollygo

I’d really like everything people say about the DT publishing inaccuracies to be true, when I read this
Rachel Reeves has been told to mount a £6bn tax raid on pensioners, landlords and the self-employed by the most influential think tank within Labour

Read Tim Wallace's whole report below 👇

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/09/23/labour-favourite-think-tank-demands-tax-raid-on-pensioners/

Please let it be an inaccuracy.

It isn’t welcome news for many people, whatever any government ever does in a budget. I find though that it always helps to read the same information from different sources. It’s the spin that distorts. At this stage it’s all speculation though, obviously.

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-15123195/Labours-favourite-think-tank-calls-income-tax-hike-30bn-raid-firms-say-pain.html

I assume you know that "thisismoney.co.uk" is owned by DMG Media, which is a subsidiary of the Daily Mail.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Our eldest daughter subscribes to The Guardian. We’ve had some pretty feisty opinion swaps at times over the years! We are still close though. Blood is thicker than newspaper print. 😁

Does your eldest DD know about this thread you started FGT2? If she finds out be afraid, very afraid.

Wyllow3

Oreo

Until it goes bust.

Always one to look on the bright side.

I very much doubt the Guardian will go bust, with a very successful transition to online news under its belt already.
AI says - By Unique Monthly Users
According to data from Press Gazette in October 2024, the top news websites by unique monthly users were:
BBC (38.2 million)
The Guardian (19.8 million)
The Independent (19.4 million)
Mail Online (18.9 million)
Sky News (18.5 million)

I was in the Dentist waiting room yesterday, without my phone, and picked up Woman and Home from May 2025.
It could have been 1975 easily.
I had a brief moment when I imagined a magazine aimed at women our age (60 - 90) as their idea of an older woman is aged about 50 and has appalling taste in clothes.

I still read the Grauniad but online with a donation. I buy a weekend paper when I have time to read it.

I won't be buying that sweatshirt. It looks awful.

Oreo

Until it goes bust.

Always one to look on the bright side.

One of the reasons that they risk financial loss is that they still allow use of their online news without charge, whereas others are behind a paywall. I admire them for this.

.. but not in kind, Oreo. I could , too, resort to the jibes of the playground by referring to the reading ages required by the Guardian.

Until it goes bust.

Have read the Guardian for years, and probably always will.

😁but you have responded.

Thank you, FGT, we have always had mutually respectful disagreements!
Well, the Guardian has just been awarded a significant sum of money in a court case brought by an actor.
The newspaper printed reports of this man using his position against women
He sued, and lost.
So, perhaps, sometimes the Guardian does defend women.
I won't dignify the " it's wet , or "sanctimonious" with a response.

Sanctimonious is a good word , my own take on The Guardian is that it’s wetter than a duck’s arse🦆 ( and no, not because someone else told me.)

If you didnt read it regularly you wouldn't be in the position to call it Sanctimonious

Or are you assuming it is so "because someone else told me"?

JenniferEccles

Sanctimonious is always the word which comes to mind with the Guardian.
Very Left wing of course but that’s fine for those of a similar mindset.

The newspaper has a small readership- in fact I’ve often said I think its entire readership is on GN!

They have a huge online readership, JenniferEccles.