Oops! The Prince formerly known as Duke drops another clanger!

I can't not believe that I have read that the victims Andrew et al. should just forget about their sexual assault because it happened 24 years ago and also the serious insinuation that these trafficked victims were prostitutes.

Wow.

ronib, the thread on so called grooming gangs contains horrific details of the type of abuse girls then often seen as prostitutes we’re subjected to.
Yiu seem determined to undermine and sneer at the suggestion the sexual abuse, objectification and degrading treatment of vulnerable 17/year old Virginia G was criminal.
We have legal proof of a 14 year being exploited by Epstein.

And VG was not a prostitute, she was sexually abused and exoloited

imaround

I can't not believe that I have read that the victims Andrew et al. should just forget about their sexual assault because it happened 24 years ago and also the serious insinuation that these trafficked victims were prostitutes.

Wow.

Victims will probably never forget.

I cbb to engage with you any more ronib
I find your views, especially as you claim to be a mother and grandmother, quite bewildering.

And demeaning to women girls and boys sexually exploited.

imaround

I can't not believe that I have read that the victims Andrew et al. should just forget about their sexual assault because it happened 24 years ago and also the serious insinuation that these trafficked victims were prostitutes.

Wow.

Can you imagine -

"We've found the person who murdered your child"

"Have you? Never mind, it was 24 years ago, it doesn't matter now"

Virginia Giuffre is dead. Her pain is finally over. Her family presumably will continue to benefit from royalties from her book and PA’s payment.
I would like to see legislation passed to protect young women and also the men who pay for sex. And quite a few do. Surely some good could emerge? Proper regulation?

Great response from imariund and ferry.

When in a huge pit ronib .....

So what do you want of Prince Andrew?

Him to talk to the FBI and be prosecuted. Same as as everyone else who is on that list. Trump, Clinton, Musk, Prime Ministers. They should all be held accountable just like the rest of us would.

She died in part because of his abuse. But not before warning the rest of the world what a horrible person Andrew is, thank goodness.

Him not being a working royal and not using his titles is not a punishment for what he was involved in. He gets to still live his life while she is dead.

She is the victim here. Not the predator Andrew.

How will that prevent young girls from being trafficked?

ronib

How will that prevent young girls from being trafficked?

It’s called justice ronib. Punishment of the guilty is the best way of deterring others.

No

We need a licensed system of prostitution?

It just keeps getting more gross.

SHE WASNT A PROSTITUTE.

A trafficked sex worker? Okay. Argue about it but will that stop it happening again? How are you going to stop this?

The Netherlands has a working licensed sex workers industry since 2000.

ronib

A trafficked sex worker? Okay. Argue about it but will that stop it happening again? How are you going to stop this?

I can tell you how we won't stop it - it's with attitudes like yours.

Gross.

Have a look at how the rest of the world regulates this….. quite eye opening.

Please tell me. How does the UK regulate sex trafficking?

ferry23

ronib

A trafficked sex worker? Okay. Argue about it but will that stop it happening again? How are you going to stop this?

I can tell you how we won't stop it - it's with attitudes like yours.

👏👏👏

ronib

The Netherlands has a working licensed sex workers industry since 2000.

Strictly for over 18s only. Virginia Guiffre was 16 when she first worked for Epstein. Some girls were 14. They were children, you can’t dress that up.