Jan Leeming said train your kids like dogs

I always wonder why "celebrities" make these statements on line which they know will result in a backlash. Has she got a book coming out?
A quiet word with the restaurant owner would be better as I expect they value her custom as she is no doubt recognised....but maybe not by the younger generation. Anyone under 60 I mean.

Sparklefizz

Twenty odd years ago there was a seaside cafe in Weston Super Mare that had a sign saying "Any children behaving badly will be put in chains and sold into slavery!"

It probably had to be removed!

I’ve seen (more recently)
‘Any badly behaved children will be given a Red Bull and a puppy to take home’

shysal

Am I right in thinking that Jan hasn't had children? If so , that says it all!

Why? It makes no difference whether a person has a child or children of their own - they're just as entitled to express their views on badly behaved children in restaurants as any other paying customer.

Twenty odd years ago there was a seaside cafe in Weston Super Mare that had a sign saying "Any children behaving badly will be put in chains and sold into slavery!"

It probably had to be removed!

shysal

Am I right in thinking that Jan hasn't had children? If so , that says it all!

I don’t think that’s fair at all . I remember Andrea Leadsom making a negative comment about Theresa May’s childlessness and her ability to lead the country. . What part of having children gives you permission to accept their poor behaviour in an upmarket restaurant.

I read the account of her lunch out at one of the Pig restaurants, they're not particularly cheap. The occasion was to celebrate a friend's birthday. I don't think it's unreasonable to want to enjoy a meal without it being interspersed by children's noise. Really it's up to the restaurant to officiate in this respect, I understood they took the part of the parents.

We often would take our children and more latterly grandchildren to Pizza Express which is a pretty child friendly place, but with the expectation that they were to behave in a way that wouldn't impact on other diners and because they regarded it as a treat, they didn't let us down. I think it's up to parents to impress that on children, people pay money to enjoy a meal out and to cause too much noise, running around etc. can and does often ruin it for others. After all it's never too early to learn consideration for others imo.

I don't believe there should be a blanket ban on children, personally we never took ours to a place that I'd consider more conducive to an adult occasion, but I really do think that if parents know their child is likely to cause a ruckus then taking them into an environment where that will impact on other diner's enjoyment is selfish.

In this instance I veer towards Jan Leeming's pov, even though she didn't express that very well.

Am I right in thinking that Jan hasn't had children? If so , that says it all!

We took our children to all types of restaurants and hotels from an early age, they now take their own children to all types of restaurants.

They know how to behave and are far better behaved than some adults.

Tuliptree

Her point about being g able to go to an upmarket restaurant and not have your meal spoiled by badly behaved children is spot on, isn’t it? I fully expect that type of restaurant to have a minimum age for children. But even in midrange restaurants we should expect parents to impose a certain standard of behaviour on their children. (Otherwise take them outside and tie them to the railings 😂)

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Bad, unruly behaviour from children is just as annoying whether in a cafe, pub or an upmarket hotel.
It spoils the occasion and shouldn’t be allowed either by the parents or the owners/ management.
I don’t believe children should be seen and not heard but good behaviour should be expected from an early age.
Jan Leeming just put it rather badly.

I do think she has a point in that badly behaved children can be very disruptive in various social situations. In a restaurant or cafe, children running round unsupervised are not only annoying to other diners, but can be dangerous if there are staff carrying plates of hot food or drinks.

Short sharp commands are certainly the best way if a child is in danger. Also positive vocabulary is more likely to get a response. It's not an altogether unreasonable comparison.

Why punish the restaurant for someone else’s tardiness Astictintime? That I don’t understand at all , unless of course they are a permanent feature and live there.
So you may go to another restaurant and same happens are you going to boycott all the restaurants in town until you find one that boycotts children

Her point about being g able to go to an upmarket restaurant and not have your meal spoiled by badly behaved children is spot on, isn’t it? I fully expect that type of restaurant to have a minimum age for children. But even in midrange restaurants we should expect parents to impose a certain standard of behaviour on their children. (Otherwise take them outside and tie them to the railings 😂)

We booked a table for early Saturday evening, just the two of us. When we arrived we were seated adjacent to a large family group including two children. We heard nothing from those children, just normal conversation within their group.

After around 30 minutes another, larger group arrived including three young children. These three seemingly couldn’t decide where they wanted to sit - think a long table with seating perhaps 14 people. The children were allowed to wander around, pulling extra chairs from unoccupied tables, touch place settings at other tables because ‘they liked that knife and fork’ , and generally get in the way of waiters carrying plates of hot food and trays of drinks.
Won’t be booking there again.

Yep she looks great 👍
Not so sure about doggy training for kids though Jan. Imho is very similar to the minority of dog owners who let their dogs foul pavements and run riot off a leash in public areas and give anyone a mouthful if they challenge this, there are a minority if parents who do not stop their kids from behaving badly in public.
The majority in both cases try their best to keep their dogs/kids in check.

Sit! Roll over! Beg! I don't think so Jan.

She does look good

She looks great at 84!