Air BnB worry

Oh Aveline I do feel for you. Friends had a flat in the Quarter mile but had to sell when so many surrounding flats became Airbnb. As you say throughout the Festivals it was noisy and they were constantly disturbed by strangers.

I hope your neighbour is more responsible or he will surely lose his licence.

A couple renting full time are likely to be much noisier than share the garden more than short term lets, we use Air BNBs regularly as an alternative to hotels regularly, parties affect large properties but they are likely to be detached and affect others less.

Disagree*David49*. Full time renters become part of the community and keeping the place nice and clean is as important to them as it is for the rest of us. People staying for a short time just don't care about the place. They'll never be back and don't need to be considerate.

I think it's the garden I'd be wary of and the number of people.
I'd keep an eye on it for now (as it may not turn out to be an issue) but be ready to complain to the council if it does negatively affect you.

Aveline

Just found out that a neighbour has put his flat up for AirBnB and Booking.com. Just what we all dreaded. It's a residential block in a quiet area and most of us are older. He's advertised our parking area and access to our lovely shared garden. We are so upset. The thought of inconsiderate short term letters who won't care how much noise they make or mess they make of our shared common areas is awful. Nothing we can do. He's sneaked it past planning regulations and short term let licence. We'd certainly have registered objections. Och.

How many bedrooms does the flat have?

Aveline

Disagree*David49*. Full time renters become part of the community and keeping the place nice and clean is as important to them as it is for the rest of us. People staying for a short time just don't care about the place. They'll never be back and don't need to be considerate.

Plenty of full time renters are constant trouble makers to neighbours

Other flats are rented out here. Absolutely no trouble with these tenants. Its the short term ones we just dont want nor are they appropriate for our block.

Sago the flat concerned has three bedrooms. Thus potentially up to 6 people turning up.

I’m another one who finds Air BnBs convenient and have used them many times. Obviously a pariah 🤣🤣
My son has the first floor flat in a house where the downstairs is an Air BnB and he thinks it’s great - for a lot of the time the property is empty and he has no neighbours at all and he’s never had any problems when it’s been occupied. FYI he’s in the the centre Cambridge which is very busy tourist wise.

Well, just to add a cautionary tale. My son has a flat in a large old house. One of the other flats was recently sold and the new owners let it on Air B&B. Last weekend it was completely trashed by some young people on a short term let.. serious, serious damage...

We always stay in Airbnbs they are much better for us than hotels. They are always lovely and well kept, and we are always good and respectful.

Whilst I can fully understand why you are anxious about the turn of events and possible outcome, to say that " People staying for a short time just don't care about the place. They'll never be back and don't need to be considerate" is very sweeping and tars every one who has ever rented an air bnb property or similar with the same filthy brush. Like many others , we are regular users and we take great care to look after the property we're staying in and treat it with the utmost respect. I fear your worry & anxiety about the future of your block is skewing your judgement - be careful! I wish you all the best though, as it certainly doesn't sound the right place for short term lets and the fact the owner hasn't been upfront with you all about it does make it seem that much more suspicious.

Every Airbnb is a home lost. They have mutated from their original idea of letting a room in your home.
Very antisocial to use them. However nice you are the next guest could be a nightmare for all the poor neighbours.

I think this type if holiday letting should be banned altogether. It is open to so.much abuse and the regulation seems very poor if not non existent . As are all Disrupter Industries

It started off as a quick way to make a few bob out of complete strangers Cash in hand and is now well out of control.

I think some Airbnb still are like the original idea but not in the big cities anyway.

We stayed in one where the people were subletting which was quite wrong.

Are you sure that this (Airbnb) is even allowed under the Header Lease? Maybe check with the Freeholder of the block of flats?

Stop listening to the media, the majority of people who stay in these places are respectful of the property and neighbours. It probably won't be anything like you imagine.

But if he's ignored any planning permission or telling the authorities what he's doing then you have the option to report him.

Juicylucy

We always stay in Airbnbs they are much better for us than hotels. They are always lovely and well kept, and we are always good and respectful.

Just out of curiosity; how many of those, were you sharing the host's private home with host in residence ?

We had problems when a house near us was let out at weekends as an Airbnb as most of the renters were hen and stag nights. However many leases do not allow short-term letting of properties so it's probably worth getting in touch with your managing agents.

Aveline - you say your neighbour has advertised your parking area and access to your lovely communal garden. If your parking area provides each residence with a spot then he does have every right to do that but I think the garden is a different issue because people spread in gardens and what each of you is entitled to is dependent I suppose upon how many want to use it at the same time. Personally, I would challenge everybody I didn't know who happened to be in the garden - I assume you know all your neighbours. You can do this very politely and in so doing, give the signal that you're concerned homeowners who want to know who's in your communal space and maybe also put up some notices. You should gather together as neighbours and decide what you can put up with and what you can't. Would you for instance want to ban ball games or loud music? Actually the younger generations have grown up on earbuds unlike our generation who had radios with speakers.

As someone who lives in a county which attracts holidaymakers all year round, I've not seen any awful airbnb families, and it's a bit unfair to sneer at people who choose this type of holiday because they find it 'cheap' and 'convenient'. Surely that's what we all look for at some point in out lives, and it makes no difference whether people already have homes because we're all entitled to leisure time.

Look on the bright side, you may find that you don't have a succession of strangers - if it's a nice spot there'll be people who want to return and you might get used to them/like them. My advice is to keep an open mind. I don't incidentally have property to rent so no axe to grind either way.

We are all freeholders here. The resident concerned has got all the approvals and licenses required but did it secretly so we didn't have the opportunity to register complaints.
I'm not listening to the media Dreadwich but family members and friends who suffer when local properties are used in this way.

I have no patience for people who choose to rent these properties for cost or convenience purposes and who have never thought beyond it. We, too have had limited funds and young children before. Somehow we managed without using a home that could have been a permanent one for those who don't have one.

Aveline

You have been lucky Basgetti. My son suffers greatly from short term tenants from hell especially during summer and winter festivals which last for months. Rowdy drunken behaviour and filthy messes left on the stairs make living there just ghastly. Arriving late and just ringing all the doorbells to be let in, loud parties and overcrowding all seems to be par for the course.
Who cares though, as long as people
'Find it so much more convenient'.

Festivals aren't all year though.
So many people these days have their lives blighted by anti-social neighbours who are there to stay.
I can't believe that more than half of these Airbnbers are going to make a mess & cause disturbance, & the ones that do, well no need to register complaints with the council or get the police involved (where the nuisance is criminal) because they'll be gone in a few days.
If the lease allows it & they've got planning and short-term let permission, they've done nothing wrong, & it mayn't be the mayhem you're obviously expecting. Don't meet troubvle halfway would be my summing up.

Airbnb is a nightmare.

Haven't read any responses. Just wonder if there are any Conditions in the property deeds that limit subletting. I know my house and most of the others here have restrictions on multiple occupancy, running any business from them. My son moved to a new build 5 years ago, within 2 years someone set up an Airbnb, was approved by Council etc but the local householders objected based on the area being family orientated. Licence was revoked. As you say, the majority of residents are residents with shared facilities it may be worthwhile lodging an objection.