Air BnB worry

I’m another one who finds Air BnBs convenient and have used them many times. Obviously a pariah 🤣🤣
My son has the first floor flat in a house where the downstairs is an Air BnB and he thinks it’s great - for a lot of the time the property is empty and he has no neighbours at all and he’s never had any problems when it’s been occupied. FYI he’s in the the centre Cambridge which is very busy tourist wise.

Sago the flat concerned has three bedrooms. Thus potentially up to 6 people turning up.

Other flats are rented out here. Absolutely no trouble with these tenants. Its the short term ones we just dont want nor are they appropriate for our block.

Aveline

Disagree*David49*. Full time renters become part of the community and keeping the place nice and clean is as important to them as it is for the rest of us. People staying for a short time just don't care about the place. They'll never be back and don't need to be considerate.

Plenty of full time renters are constant trouble makers to neighbours

Aveline

Just found out that a neighbour has put his flat up for AirBnB and Booking.com. Just what we all dreaded. It's a residential block in a quiet area and most of us are older. He's advertised our parking area and access to our lovely shared garden. We are so upset. The thought of inconsiderate short term letters who won't care how much noise they make or mess they make of our shared common areas is awful. Nothing we can do. He's sneaked it past planning regulations and short term let licence. We'd certainly have registered objections. Och.

How many bedrooms does the flat have?

I think it's the garden I'd be wary of and the number of people.
I'd keep an eye on it for now (as it may not turn out to be an issue) but be ready to complain to the council if it does negatively affect you.

Disagree*David49*. Full time renters become part of the community and keeping the place nice and clean is as important to them as it is for the rest of us. People staying for a short time just don't care about the place. They'll never be back and don't need to be considerate.

A couple renting full time are likely to be much noisier than share the garden more than short term lets, we use Air BNBs regularly as an alternative to hotels regularly, parties affect large properties but they are likely to be detached and affect others less.

Oh Aveline I do feel for you. Friends had a flat in the Quarter mile but had to sell when so many surrounding flats became Airbnb. As you say throughout the Festivals it was noisy and they were constantly disturbed by strangers.

I hope your neighbour is more responsible or he will surely lose his licence.

BlueBelle

The Air B &B s I ve stayed in were beautiful so well managed and so well looked after

Well managed from the guests POV. Private, quiet, clean, no interference ?

But OP is looking at it from the different POV of owners and permanent residents who are not on holiday; they are at home. Not happy about sharing their garden and communal areas with a rapid succession of complete strangers.

Aveline

Needless to say, the residents association is on the case. The adverts are open to all comers.
Short term lets are a blight. No wonder we have a housing shortage when so many homes are used just to provide cheap holidays for those who already have homes

They also provide considerably more income than renting long term, so it's big business with investors buying up a lot of the housing stock to profit from short term lets. At least they have tightened the licensing etc. but I'm absolutely with you that they reduce the permanent housing stock, grabbing potential permanent homes that people so desperately need.

Needless to say, the residents association is on the case. The adverts are open to all comers.
Short term lets are a blight. No wonder we have a housing shortage when so many homes are used just to provide cheap holidays for those who already have homes

If there are mainly older people in your block which is in a quiet residential area it would seem to me to be unlikely that young people partying on down will be renting this apartment. The person renting it can specify that it is a quiet area and refuse single sex rentals. Is it possible to get together with other residents and talk to the owner?

Aveline

He has a short term let licence. If only we'd known he'd applied for one.

Awful that you didn’t have to be notified

He has a short term let licence. If only we'd known he'd applied for one.

butterandjam

Aveline

Just found out that a neighbour has put his flat up for AirBnB and Booking.com. Just what we all dreaded. It's a residential block in a quiet area and most of us are older. He's advertised our parking area and access to our lovely shared garden. We are so upset. The thought of inconsiderate short term letters who won't care how much noise they make or mess they make of our shared common areas is awful. Nothing we can do. He's sneaked it past planning regulations and short term let licence. We'd certainly have registered objections. Och.

If "och" means you're in Scotland, here he is required by law to be a registered |LL with the local council. You can search the local LL register ( free) to check that. Non compliance = huge fine.

Next, insurance. Residential block properties often have a common insurance policy; if so check the terms of your own for the insurers T and C re commercial letting. If he is doing commercial lets on a domestic-residence policy, he has almost certainly invalidated any claims made on a domestic home policy; and this could put the entire block at financial risk. If you share the same insurance company bring this issue to their attention.

Our development has pages of binding regulations ; ours expressly bans short term lets (like B and B and air Band B)
it also makes building insurance compulsory. We have an elected committee to manage anything from small niggles to expensive buisances, and the Factors. Check your deeds.

If you have a factor, they should have the power to require evidence of an insurance policy.

Next, consider the security of shared entrance/stairwells etc. Our communal main door is locked at all times ( its a condition of insurance policy cover). Will he offer guests an external keylock opened by a code? Will more footfall incur extra cleaning of communal areas?

Landlords charging money enter a whole world of compulsory costs, liabilities, health and safety regulations. Your local council can provide lots of detailed information about that.

It's a Short Term Let Licence, not Registered Landlord, for short term lets.

All of Edinburgh is a controlled area for Short Term Lets and require planning permission. Neighbours should have been informed. There is a page on the Edinburgh planning website where you can register a complaint

The Air B &B s I ve stayed in were beautiful so well managed and so well looked after

Thanks butterandjam. Good idea to check out the building's insurance policy and security of access. Our residents association have already been alerted.

Aveline

Just found out that a neighbour has put his flat up for AirBnB and Booking.com. Just what we all dreaded. It's a residential block in a quiet area and most of us are older. He's advertised our parking area and access to our lovely shared garden. We are so upset. The thought of inconsiderate short term letters who won't care how much noise they make or mess they make of our shared common areas is awful. Nothing we can do. He's sneaked it past planning regulations and short term let licence. We'd certainly have registered objections. Och.

If "och" means you're in Scotland, here he is required by law to be a registered |LL with the local council. You can search the local LL register ( free) to check that. Non compliance = huge fine.

Next, insurance. Residential block properties often have a common insurance policy; if so check the terms of your own for the insurers T and C re commercial letting. If he is doing commercial lets on a domestic-residence policy, he has almost certainly invalidated any claims made on a domestic home policy; and this could put the entire block at financial risk. If you share the same insurance company bring this issue to their attention.

Our development has pages of binding regulations ; ours expressly bans short term lets (like B and B and air Band B)
it also makes building insurance compulsory. We have an elected committee to manage anything from small niggles to expensive buisances, and the Factors. Check your deeds.

If you have a factor, they should have the power to require evidence of an insurance policy.

Next, consider the security of shared entrance/stairwells etc. Our communal main door is locked at all times ( its a condition of insurance policy cover). Will he offer guests an external keylock opened by a code? Will more footfall incur extra cleaning of communal areas?

Landlords charging money enter a whole world of compulsory costs, liabilities, health and safety regulations. Your local council can provide lots of detailed information about that.

Aveline

That's too late after it's happened. For those living around short term let flats life is awful. No wonder they're banned in some European cities

An increasing number- some ban in certain areas, some limit the circumstances in which the property can be let. I know when I’ve rented self catering ( holiday let or Airbnb ) the owners won’t let to single sex groups who seem to be a higher risk category

That's too late after it's happened. For those living around short term let flats life is awful. No wonder they're banned in some European cities

AirBnB takes feed back from owners so if there's been any trouble, they can be blacklisted and prevented from renting other properties.

You have been lucky Basgetti. My son suffers greatly from short term tenants from hell especially during summer and winter festivals which last for months. Rowdy drunken behaviour and filthy messes left on the stairs make living there just ghastly. Arriving late and just ringing all the doorbells to be let in, loud parties and overcrowding all seems to be par for the course.
Who cares though, as long as people
'Find it so much more convenient'.

Aveline

AirBnB is loathed in Edinburgh. These short term lets have hollowed out the town centre and now it looks like they're coming for residential areas. I'd never, never stay in one. It's a long term home lost for a family.

Each to their own. We find it so much more convenient than hotels, travelling with a young child.
There are a couple in our block in Perth: we only know because they have signs in the windows. Never had any bother.