A huge march against the Far Right

The level of naivety on here is astounding at times.

Oreo

There’s no far right government here and never likely to be so marching isn’t just a waste of time but pointless.

In your opinion.

If you don’t like it, scroll on by, if you have no underlying fear that people like Farage, Yaxley and their rent-a-mobs are divisive, then that’s fine.

Please don’t simply dismiss and denigrate others who feel differently.

It’s not just this country, there are protests worldwide, some of us care deeply about our own country, our own citizens (of all colours/faiths) and those in other countries.

It doesn’t mean we support terrorism, or violence against those whose opinions differ from ours, it means that we genuinely believe in the art of compromise, negotiations, seeking peace whenever and wherever possible and if this all fails, last case scenario is defence when attacked.

We are fortunate, so very fortunate, that by a sheer accident of birth, we don’t have a daily fight every day of our lives, to get clean water, food for our children, vaccines, avoiding bombs, speaking up, etc etc

We have so much to be grateful for and simply wish the for the same for all mankind!

Naive? Probably 🥀

Oreo

The level of naivety on here is astounding at times.

How do you know people are naive? We are generally older and therefore have been around the block a few times. We may be parents, grandparents, professionals, retired.

We are not naive fools who support terrorism.

I find your assumptions insulting really.

I don’t think any poster supports terrorism…..where did you get that weird idea from?

pro Iranian regime numbties

Thanks for starting this thread BlueBelle. It’s good to see the majority posting agree it’s a sign of hope that good people march against the far right.

Cossy ‘I’d like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony’ ideas are lovely but pie in the sky.
Yes we would all want a degree of compromise, negotiation and seeking peace if at all possible and defence when it’s needed….it’s what the UK does anyway.
The world has always been at war with its neighbours which suggests it’s part of the human condition and countries are so wide ranging in their aims and ambitions and cultures that there will never be peace for everyone, it’s impossible and it is naive to think so.
We may wish our lives were possible for all mankind but at the same time realise that it isn’t and that marches ( especially marches with many disparate aims) will achieve nothing.

I have had a quick look at images from the march.

Not sure waving the Iranian flag, a country which routinely murders its citizens for being gay, has an appalling history of violence against women and has murdered tens of thousands of its young people for having the audacity to march earlier this year is a huge march for peace 🤷‍♀️

Iam64

Thanks for starting this thread BlueBelle. It’s good to see the majority posting agree it’s a sign of hope that good people march against the far right.

What Far Right would that be? If you’re talking of Trump then that’s up to the American voters next time around.Here in the UK there is no Far Right in power and it’s not likely there will be.

I am also mindful of these people’s

right to march and openly express their opinions

Which they wouldn’t be able to do in the country of the flag they are waving…

….and they certainly weren’t all ‘good people’ on that march either.

Far Right - Far Left

Get used so often by those of differing opinions that they are becoming if not already have become meaningless soundbites

The march was organised by Together Alliance.

This comprises hundreds of organisations including Friends of the Earth, the TUC, Stand up to Racism, UNISON, Care4Calais, GMB, Greenpeace, Amnesty, the BMA, CND, Equity, FuelPovertyAction, Musicians’ Union, the NUM, NASUWT, Oxfam, RCM, RCN, USDAW and many, many others, large and small, including Jewish groups.

Scroll through this for more:

www.togetheralliance.org.uk/supporters#block-29e4bdeb-f7bf-4d4d-8fc1-58f65c014948

GrannyGravy13

I have had a quick look at images from the march.

Not sure waving the Iranian flag, a country which routinely murders its citizens for being gay, has an appalling history of violence against women and has murdered tens of thousands of its young people for having the audacity to march earlier this year is a huge march for peace 🤷‍♀️

I get your point BUT, huge but, it’s the Iranian people who are being supported, not the regime or govt.

People say exactly the same thing if anyone dares hold a Palestine flag.

These, in the main, are just normal average people drawn from many different groups and organisations marching in support of normal average people throughout the world.

I have zero issue with it.

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I saw reports of the London march here in the US!

My GS has two Iranian friends who live here in the UK. Their parents are hated in Iran for leaving.
Are these two young men bad people because they are Iranian?
They may have supported the march on behalf of ordinary people and friends back in Iran Oreo.

GrannyGravy13

I have had a quick look at images from the march.

Not sure waving the Iranian flag, a country which routinely murders its citizens for being gay, has an appalling history of violence against women and has murdered tens of thousands of its young people for having the audacity to march earlier this year is a huge march for peace 🤷‍♀️

It was the flag of the former Shah. The difference is the lion rather than some symbol in the centre stripe.

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I only dislike those who support the present Iranian regime who join these kind of marches, and they do exist here in the UK.

Oreo

I only dislike those who support the present Iranian regime who join these kind of marches, and they do exist here in the UK.

People who fly the Shah's flag are unlikely to support the present regime in Iran.

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The march was organised by Together Alliance.

This comprises hundreds of organisations including Friends of the Earth, the TUC, Stand up to Racism, UNISON, Care4Calais, GMB, Greenpeace, Amnesty, the BMA, CND, Equity, FuelPovertyAction, Musicians’ Union, the NUM, NASUWT, Oxfam, RCM, RCN, USDAW and many, many others, large and small, including Jewish groups.

Scroll through this for more:

www.togetheralliance.org.uk/supporters#block-29e4bdeb-f7bf-4d4d-8fc1-58f65c014948

Exactly, a total mish mash of groups with different gripes.

twaddle

Oreo

I only dislike those who support the present Iranian regime who join these kind of marches, and they do exist here in the UK.

People who fly the Shah's flag are unlikely to support the present regime in Iran.

They’re not the ones I’m talking about.
Obviously.

There are two different demographics of Iranians who live here, those who fled the country after the Revolution, we lived next door to such a family for over 20 years in our previous house. Then there are those who support the Mullahs and the hard line regime, that has murdered so many of its brave young people, which begs the question why are they here and not back there.

Exactly, a total mish mash of groups with different gripes.

Our members represent over 15 million people. We are teachers, firefighters, care workers, cleaners, midwives, engineers and so much more. We’re all marching for unity against division.

What is wrong with that, Oreo?