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MartavTaurus Thu 02-Apr-26 03:48:33

Several comments suggesting King Charles pretends his health isn't good enough to travel. That his existing illness has taken a downturn.

I couldn't lie about my health to anyone, friend of foe. I'd be worried I was tempting fate for one thing. But also, I'd feel guilty when people started showing sympathy.

And if the excuse is used enough times, no one will believe it anyway.

BlueBelle Fri 03-Apr-26 07:01:02

So no one’s ever had a ‘headache’ or feel a bit ‘under the weather’ I fully admit I have I didn’t ever pull a sickie in my work life but I remember pulling out of a dentist check up by ‘feeling unwell’ and also a party once as I was just too shy to go to a be with a lot of strangers so I ‘hurt my ankle’ that morning I remember thinking it would be much worse to be truthful as she would then feel she’d got to babysit me for the evening.
No Doodledog I don’t think either of those occasions let anyone down !

SpinDriftCoastal Fri 03-Apr-26 08:15:14

When I was at school in the 60s we had an English teacher who literally was never there. We were constantly told she had a cold, her children were ill, her son had spots, her daughter had a sore throat. Funnily enough, we used to see them walking the dog or the daughter riding after school quite happily. This went on for about two terms.

Wyllow3 Fri 03-Apr-26 08:36:08

David49

The OP is joking, seriously if you believe that you are badly inexperienced.

Making excuses to get out of work is rife, favourite now is depression, mental illness, bad back, go to the doctor get signed off without question, its routine HR has to cope with it

Please never, ever, David, so carelessly associate "depression, Mental Illness, unless there is specific evidence, with making excuses not to work.

Mental Health professionals - and people have posted on it - will tell you the absolute crippling effect the severe MH problems have on every aspect of life and family life.

And a psychiatrist can tell the difference between a relatively mild condition and a serious one, and "faking it".

Do you realise what continual association of "Mental Illness" with " get out clauses" means to those who suffer?

There is actually an increase in genuine MH problems, at the same time, facilities have declined beyond recognition to help. Many border line people, with help they would have previously got could work and take part in society.

MartavTaurus Fri 03-Apr-26 08:54:56

Doodledog

If someone is genuinely ill vice and virtue don’t come into it though. The OP question is about feigning illness to get out of something.

Yes, basically coming up with an excuse - tantamount to a lie - about one's health.

But I'm happy if the thread goes off course a bit, as threads do.

Here's the few quotes I took the idea from, though there were a few others too.

Surely they could pretend his health isn’t good enough.

So sorry, King is indisposed

I think it is wrong to use health as an excuse, anytime. But I have seen it happen, and I wondered in general, using KC comments on GN as a starter, what others felt about cancelling arrangements when you could otherwise go.

Doodledog Fri 03-Apr-26 09:01:46

BlueBelle

So no one’s ever had a ‘headache’ or feel a bit ‘under the weather’ I fully admit I have I didn’t ever pull a sickie in my work life but I remember pulling out of a dentist check up by ‘feeling unwell’ and also a party once as I was just too shy to go to a be with a lot of strangers so I ‘hurt my ankle’ that morning I remember thinking it would be much worse to be truthful as she would then feel she’d got to babysit me for the evening.
No Doodledog I don’t think either of those occasions let anyone down !

So someone who may have been feeling worried that people wouldn’t turn up, will have spent money per head on the catering, will have planned the invitations and not been able to invite some friends because they had prioritised others doesn’t feel let down when people who say they are coming don’t bother to attend?

Social occasions aren’t compulsory- if you (generic) don’t enjoy them, why accept in the first place?

I really dislike the way many people like to have others do the work of arranging things, pay for premises and food, have the stress of worrying that people won’t show up but then decide on the night whether they want to turn up.

In a large, loose social group I’m in this happens a lot. Organisers are left with tables half filled and angry waiters who had kept them open. Others are left waiting in car parks for those who agreed to attend dog walks, or sit feeling embarrassed in cafes or bars as those who signed up just don’t show.

I think it’s cruel, and the ‘anxiety’ excuse just doesn’t wash. I fully understand anxiety - but why accept or put your name down if you know there is a good chance you won’t be able to make it? Why are the anxious one’s feelings more important than the organisers’?

A friend of mine took her turn at arranging a group night out in a restaurant. She booked for 12, and reminded everyone on the list several times, pointing out that it was a small restaurant and turning people away would cost them money. I went early with her for support. She was so nervous about it in case nobody came, and at least if that happened there were two of us. Nobody arrived on time, and then the texts started. Illness, cars that wouldn’t start etc. The waiter kept asking if we were ready, and we didn’t know. In the end there were five of us instead of the twelve who booked. Of course she was let down.

And then people complain that it’s difficult to make friends as we get older.

Wyllow3 Fri 03-Apr-26 09:04:16

I rarely take on a commitment I can't honour basically anymore. Amongst people I am close to, it is almost always OK to say "I'm sorry I cant do that anymore"

If the person is extremely vulnerable, if they are unable to stop feeling really hurt by it, I'll give reassurance I'll see them soon if possible. Have I ever told a white lie? Yes. There are rare occasions when it feels right to do so.

As regards the King, if the truth is he is unable to go for health reasons, it would be on very eminent doctors advice, wouldn't it? They would make that clear.

Magenta8 Fri 03-Apr-26 09:07:34

I believe there is also the problem of presenteeism in the work place.

Workers who came into work with a steaming cold or some other highly communicable illness and infected the whole office were a very real problem before Covid 19 as employers did not accept absence from work with just a cold or a touch of diarrhoea or whatever.

I actually had pneumonia when I started one of my jobs and after about a week I had to take time off. From then on my boss insisted that I provided a doctor's certificate every time I was ill. After that I went for years without being ill enough to warrant taking any more time off work but it meant I often struggled into work when I should have stayed at home.

When I broke my right wrist and had to have an operation, the first thing my boss said to me when I phoned in was "That's very inconvenient, you couldn't have chosen a worse time with two staff leaving and the new computer system coming in."

Wyllow3 Fri 03-Apr-26 09:07:46

Exactly, Doodledog. Don't say yes in the first place. That was awful for your friend.
Choose situations that do suit your personality.

Minor point - the acquaintance who always says, "we must do lunch sometimes" but never does..but OTOH I now read it as "I'd like to see you but not enough" .

Caleo Fri 03-Apr-26 09:22:41

I once arranged with a university lecturer to give a talk to our local Humanist group . He never turned up and I felt responsible. The lecturer apologised later when we happened to meet. I never forgave him for letting us down simply because he had not taken us seriously enough to remember .

M0nica Fri 03-Apr-26 09:27:52

Doodledog

If someone is genuinely ill vice and virtue don’t come into it though. The OP question is about feigning illness to get out of something.

What about pulling a sickie in order to be able to do something?

Doodledog Fri 03-Apr-26 10:08:32

M0nica

Doodledog

If someone is genuinely ill vice and virtue don’t come into it though. The OP question is about feigning illness to get out of something.

What about pulling a sickie in order to be able to do something?

Isn't that the same thing?

I'm not the voice of morality here grin. It happens to be something I feel strongly about having worked for so long with the Queen of Sickies, but everyone has their own moral compass and I am not in the business of giving absolution or condemnation to those with different views from mine.

M0nica Fri 03-Apr-26 14:13:30

I am not looking for absolution or condemnation. I just find it hard to believe that so many people have never pulled a sicky. I have on two occasions. I make no excuses for it.

I have known other people do it on occasion. I have never come across anyone who made a habit of it or anything near a habit.

ViceVersa Fri 03-Apr-26 15:02:03

As someone who has health conditions which can flare up at any time with little or no warning, I'd hate to think people believed I was just 'pulling a sickie' if I have to cancel on them at short notice.

Doodledog Fri 03-Apr-26 15:19:10

ViceVersa

As someone who has health conditions which can flare up at any time with little or no warning, I'd hate to think people believed I was just 'pulling a sickie' if I have to cancel on them at short notice.

I understand that, which (to me) is another reason why those who do use health as an excuse are selfish. I don't suppose people will think badly of you unless it is always when there is something you don't want to do that you take ill.

MT62 Fri 03-Apr-26 17:09:12

I think Gp still has to record your health issue on your visit to the surgery.
Not 100% sure how holiday insurance works, tbh, but if they can find a way not to pay out & all that VV.

MT62 Fri 03-Apr-26 17:13:05

Caleo

Diarrhoea is a good social excuse that hurts nobody's feelings or pocket.

Or constipation if you can’t spell diarrhoea as my grannie used to put on the school note 😂

Caleo Sat 04-Apr-26 11:16:40

MT62

Caleo

Diarrhoea is a good social excuse that hurts nobody's feelings or pocket.

Or constipation if you can’t spell diarrhoea as my grannie used to put on the school note 😂

grin

butterandjam Sat 04-Apr-26 18:02:04

MartavTaurus

Doodledog

If someone is genuinely ill vice and virtue don’t come into it though. The OP question is about feigning illness to get out of something.

Yes, basically coming up with an excuse - tantamount to a lie - about one's health.

But I'm happy if the thread goes off course a bit, as threads do.

Here's the few quotes I took the idea from, though there were a few others too.

Surely they could pretend his health isn’t good enough.

So sorry, King is indisposed

I think it is wrong to use health as an excuse, anytime. But I have seen it happen, and I wondered in general, using KC comments on GN as a starter, what others felt about cancelling arrangements when you could otherwise go.

You quoted part of my post, out of context, and misinterpreted "indisposed".

I strongly suspect that the US visit will not go ahead. Basically because Trump has lost the plot to such a degree there is no dangerous lie, smear, falsehood and misrepresentation about heads of state he won't stoop to.

The least damaging way to extricate him is a last minute cancellation without detailed explanation.

I chose the term indisposed deliberately, because like many English terms it has several definitions. Including

" Unwilling, averse".

A subtle joke for the educated diplomat. Straight over the head of morons like Trump.

Essexgirl145 Sun 05-Apr-26 14:47:37

Yes and it was my Husband, no longer with him, but it had a terrible effect on me and my Son.

StoneofDestiny Sun 05-Apr-26 14:54:12

Never feigned illness. The millions spent taking Charles on this visit would be better spent on things at home - things that will make a real difference. Ghastly to visit Trump who clearly delights in humiliating people, insults our allies, prime minister, army and navy and is a convicted felon!

StoneofDestiny Sun 05-Apr-26 15:00:49

Trumps latest rant for context.

”Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran," he wrote on Truth Social. "There will be nothing like it!!! Open the F**kin' Strait, you crazy b*stards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP."

MT62 Sun 05-Apr-26 15:04:33

mae13

Perhaps, health permitting, the King should attend.

Any state banquet would be a hoot - not to mention a demonstration to Mister Trump of how to do dignity.

Charles would be wearing formal dress with his various honours and regalia and Trump.........would (very likely) be wearing his silly Make America Great Again baseball hat.

Likewise, Queen Camilla will be displaying one of the many magnificent tiara's that come with the job and the title. But the best Melania Trump will be able to come up with is 'Jimmy Choo' 5 inch stiletto's.

Game, set and match to the Windsor's.

I think Melania dresses really elegantly.
I think she also carries herself really well.
I also think QC dresses beautifully. Her wedding outfit was the most stunning outfit I’ve ever seen.

Iamthewalrus Sun 05-Apr-26 15:16:30

I don’t but I think if I was being forced to make nice with Trump I might just start. That’s quite the task to take on on behalf of the UK.

jacki2299 Sun 05-Apr-26 15:20:56

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Sheba Sun 05-Apr-26 15:53:43

Never pulled a sicky in 47 years of working.
I was brought up being told if I was well enough to get out of bed I was well enough to go to school which stuck with me all of my working life.