The reform party has agreed to continue the triple lock

I honestly think that all the sneering is because of fear, real fear that Reform are doing so well in the polls.
But it’s a long time until a GE and a week is a long time in politics.

Hardly comparable.

Fallingstar

David49

Many older voters will vote Reform and changing the triple lock would loose them votes, do not dismiss the threat posed by Farage. As for election promises they are not worth the paper they are written on by any party

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

Farage is the last person I would vote for, many others, will

Hmm a loony left leader, and earlier we were discussing derogatory name calling with regard to Reform voters. Thanks for showing that it works both ways.

Actually Fallingstar the ‘loony left’ mentioned by David49 was about an MP whereas posters seem quite comfortable reading that supporters of Reform are ‘knuckle draggers’.

In any case, Reform cannot win by themselves but would have to be in a coalition with Conservatives.

Cossy

Casdon

Imagine a thread like that, where everybody said which party they were going to vote for and offered no commentary or rationale. What a yawn.

🙄 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It would be if we were talking of anything other than Reform.
All posters really are dying to do on this thread is a gigantic pile on to anyone who has the courage to write that they will be voting Reform.All you have to do to see this is to read all the posts.

I'm missing the bit where Labour controls the mass media.

LizzieDrip

^This describes Labour to a T^ meandrogrog 🙄🙄🙄🤔🤔🤔

😉

(Oh and fwiw, our 31 and 23 year old kids think Polanski is an idiot.)

Oreo

No, the offer of the triple lock wouldn’t persuade me to vote Reform, tho am not quite pensionable yet anyway.I expect the Conservatives will likely say the same thing before the next GE as well.
The younger generation may not like the triple lock but since a lot of them also like Zack Polanski and his crazy ideas/ policies I don’t know what that says about the 18-24 year olds😱

We’re 67 and 61. We don’t like the triple lock.

This describes Labour to a T meandrogrog 🙄🙄🙄🤔🤔🤔

I am going to ask one more time that people stop using the word loony to describe those whose politics value people over profit.

It is disparaging and derogatory and means a person with a serious mental illness.

Hopesprings52

Will Reform be able to take the UK out of the ECHR, which everyone says is the only way to stop illegal migration? What are GranNetters' thoughts?

It’s local elections! We have another 3 years, at least another 3 years before a GE! Things may look very different then!

Casdon

Imagine a thread like that, where everybody said which party they were going to vote for and offered no commentary or rationale. What a yawn.

🙄 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Casdon

I’m still waiting to hear who this ‘loony left’ person is David49, do spill the beans, please.

Yes is a bit of a mystery, do throw us a bone David.

I’m still waiting to hear who this ‘loony left’ person is David49, do spill the beans, please.

Allira

David49

Many older voters will vote Reform and changing the triple lock would loose them votes, do not dismiss the threat posed by Farage. As for election promises they are not worth the paper they are written on by any party

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

Farage is the last person I would vote for, many others, will

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

I'm confused. There is not a General Election in May nor a leadership election

Do try to catch up, a poor election result in May may result in a leadership challenge, thats even worse than Starmer staying.

Graphite your list contains attributes that can be linked to Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dem’s…

Graphite

Casdon

Try googling ‘why is Reform UK compared to Nazi Germany’ Meandrogrog, then you will see the reasons for the comparison. There are plenty of articles from different publications online.

Reform & Nazi Germany

Signs of Fascism

• Cult of the leader
• Powerful and continuing nationalism
• Disdain for human rights
• Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
• Controlled mass media
• Obsession with national security
• Religion and government intertwined
• Corporate power protected
• Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
• Obsession with crime and punishment
• Rampant cronyism and corruption

This describes Labour to a T

What did the ECHR ever do for anyone?

Why would Posters 'tear to shreds' valid point if they make sense?

Casdon

Try googling ‘why is Reform UK compared to Nazi Germany’ Meandrogrog, then you will see the reasons for the comparison. There are plenty of articles from different publications online.

Reform & Nazi Germany

Signs of Fascism

• Cult of the leader
• Powerful and continuing nationalism
• Disdain for human rights
• Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
• Controlled mass media
• Obsession with national security
• Religion and government intertwined
• Corporate power protected
• Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
• Obsession with crime and punishment
• Rampant cronyism and corruption

David49

Many older voters will vote Reform and changing the triple lock would loose them votes, do not dismiss the threat posed by Farage. As for election promises they are not worth the paper they are written on by any party

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

Farage is the last person I would vote for, many others, will

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

I'm confused. There is not a General Election in May nor a leadership election

Try googling ‘why is Reform UK compared to Nazi Germany’ Meandrogrog, then you will see the reasons for the comparison. There are plenty of articles from different publications online.

Will Reform be able to take the UK out of the ECHR, which everyone says is the only way to stop illegal migration? What are GranNetters' thoughts?

twaddle

Meandrogrog

twaddle

Meandrogrog

Cossy

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

You’re doing the very thing you accuse others of doing.

One doesn’t have to be a “leftie” to not wish to vote for Reform.

I’m just interested, if you’re able/willing to respond, just exactly “how” Reform will prevent Asylum Seekers entering the Country illegally, and why on earth you feel we, as the UK, should further distance ourselves from those sharing our continent and our closest allies and neighbours?

What am I doing Cossy which is the very thing I am accusing others of doing? I was not aware I was being accusing, just that I do not wish to be attacked by vociferous Reform hating posters. Please do not describe me as being accusing as this is unfair and untrue.

But it's not untrue! You did do exactly the same as you were claiming others were doing. We have eyes and we can see.

Please could you tell me exactly what I accused others of?

No, because it's obvious and I believe you're being deliberately obtuse.

It is genuinely not obvious to me, and I suspect you are being accusatory but not able to back it up.