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HMRC slightly angry is an understatement

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nanna8 Fri 24-Apr-26 01:52:43

They don’t tax pensions here because you have already paid tax on your earnings. However, they don’t give state pensions out to many of us because they means test them. Probably works out the same in the long run. The individual never comes out on top.

Moonwatcher1904 Fri 24-Apr-26 01:13:22

Thanks Graphite. I've been on my Government Gateway tax account and yes it's correct.
I checked my DH account and they've done the same with his works pension too.
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised - give it with one hand and take it with the other.

Graphite Fri 24-Apr-26 01:04:53

The tax free allowance of £12,570 was frozen by the Tories with effect from April 2021.

Every time your State Pension is increased you will pay more tax on your works pension. Whatever your SP goes up by annually, multiple that by 20% and divide that by 12. That’s how much extra tax you will pay per month.

Assuming there is nothing else affecting you tax code, for example underpayments from previous years or other untaxed income, then …

Last year you paid £6 per month or £72 per year which meant taxable income of £360 (£360 x 20% = £72) so your income must have been £12,930 (£12,570 + £360 ). If your works pension is a fixed £528 per year, that means your SP was £12,402.

If you are now paying £15 pm tax or £180 per year that means taxable income of £900. (£900 x 20% = £180) This means your total income is £13,470. Deduct the works pension of £528, your State Pension must now be £12,942.

So it sounds like your SP has increased by £540. Impossible for me to reconcile that without knowing how your SP is made up.

This month, the main part of the SP was increased by 4.8% and Additional State Pension and Protected Payments, which aren't triple locked, by 3.8%.

Whichever it is, £540 x 20% is £108 - the extra £9 a month.

It isn’t HMRC’s fault. They just collect the money. The government sets tax policy and successive chancellors have retained the frozen tax personal allowance. It's tax by stealth but the same for everyone.

Moonwatcher1904 Thu 23-Apr-26 23:52:33

Thanks for the replies. I will check it out.

Wyllow3 Thu 23-Apr-26 23:46:03

It depends on any other taxable income. My income is several small sources, but only one of them is taxed, ie, they have taken the total and just taken tax out of one.

Also, do you owe tax from a previous year.

Other complex irregular income, stocks and shares etc? (dont know how they do those)

If its neither of those then something is wrong?.

Allira Thu 23-Apr-26 23:21:27

I don't know how the increase in my works pension has been reduced so much by tax that it is hardly worth having.

I think you need to check that, though Moonwatcher.

Moonwatcher1904 Thu 23-Apr-26 23:05:41

I have a small works pension which I get as well as my state pension. It's not much as I cashed a lot in some years ago to pay off some stuff. I started getting £44 a month at the beginning then the tax man took £6 off that so was getting £39. My DH has just checked the bank and they have now taken another £9 off. So now it's gone down to £30. The bl***y robbers. :-@