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nanna8 Sun 26-Apr-26 00:34:45

Every time I hear someone described as an ‘influencer’ it makes me feel quite ill. What a horrible, horrible term and I would avoid any person described like this like the proverbial plague. Maybe I am just out of date .

Galaxy Sun 26-Apr-26 10:35:39

I do think we also have different ideas about what an influencer is. I have never thought of Joe Wickes as an influencer but maybe he is.
I follow a woman who does skincare, I am fascinated by her for no reason I could explain ( I use one product on my skin) sometimes she makes me feel sad though but probably if I filmed my life it would have the same effect.

LucyAnna5 Sun 26-Apr-26 10:40:12

Two good, sensible posts, Doodledog.
I think we delude ourselves if we say we’re not influenced - much of what we see and hear, however fleeting, goes in our brains. I never shop in Asda, but I recognise the colour of their vans and their advertising.
Surely, re influencers, you just don’t follow them?

Graphite Sun 26-Apr-26 10:47:16

Maybee makes an important point about health matters. We've seen this in dangerous and sometimes tragic behaviour encouraged on social media and vaccination conspiracy theory nonsense but I see nothing wrong in promoting a business or a product.

What’s the difference between Gillian Anderson or Helen Mirren being paid to push face cream by a multi-national and a young working-class woman doing similar for a business on Tik Tok?

Dragons’ Den entrepreneur Steven Bartlett started from nothing and used the power of social media to become an influential multi millionaire. So, for that matter has Justine Roberts who owns Mumsnet (and Gransnet), a social media platform started to push products to parents and grandparents

It’s rather ironic to use a platform which was set up to influence people to complain about influencers.

ViceVersa Sun 26-Apr-26 10:52:01

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I imagine one would have to ‘subscribe’ to their media platform to enable influencers to make money.

“A fool and his money” comes to mind.

Not necessarily - some social media platforms enable influencers to monetise their posts based on the number of clicks or views they get. That's why they constantly post stuff - the more views and likes they get, more money rolls in.
And I don't really agree with those who say it's just another form of advertising - some influencers are more focused on pushing their ideals rather than selling something, and those views can be incredibly toxic. You just have to look at the likes of Andrew Tate to see the effect that can have.
Oh, and just yesterday I saw a post from a local woman whose young daughter nearly lost the sight in one eye after copying a post she saw from an influencer encouraging kids to put 'squishies' in the microwave. The little girl's toy exploded right in her face and she's likely to be scarred for life.

nanna8 Sun 26-Apr-26 11:08:07

I never thought of influencers as ‘working class people’ , more middle class people like Meghan Markle. Wannabes.

aonk Sun 26-Apr-26 11:31:30

DDs friend from since they were both 14 is an influencer. She started because she was looking for a way of spending more time with her 4 children. Until then she had worked hard in various jobs. It took a while to take off but now she has a vast number of followers and is living a very comfortable life as well as giving her children a wonderful education. She’s a very natural and unaffected person. I applaud her. She saw an opportunity and took it. We all have the choice of whether or not to engage with such people.

dragonfly46 Sun 26-Apr-26 11:40:06

RosiesMawagain

If I ignore them, will they just go away?

I’d like to think I am my own person and any «influence» is more likely to have the opposite effect.

Me too!

Chestnut Sun 26-Apr-26 12:05:04

Chestnut

And now we have the world of Pet Influencers! Yes, your pet can pay your mortgage and it's very lucrative apparently. There was a programme on ITV this week.
Meet the social media pet stars paying their owners bills

I'm going to find out if my daughter can get her budgie to pay her rent.

I applaud anyone who can find an honest way to earn their living, especially if it brings in good money. There are so many thieves and drug dealers making megabucks, these people are not breaking the law, and it seems to be quite hard work actually!

Those who use their pets, that's absolutely brilliant if the animals are having fun and being pampered. Anyone fancy having a go?

HowVeryDareYou2 Sun 26-Apr-26 12:15:53

petra

nanna8

Every time I hear someone described as an ‘influencer’ it makes me feel quite ill. What a horrible, horrible term and I would avoid any person described like this like the proverbial plague. Maybe I am just out of date .

How can you feel quite ill hearing a word?

I wondered that, too

Cossy Sun 26-Apr-26 12:17:49

nanna8

Every time I hear someone described as an ‘influencer’ it makes me feel quite ill. What a horrible, horrible term and I would avoid any person described like this like the proverbial plague. Maybe I am just out of date .

It makes me feel that way too, utter madness, but I guess we had people like this all through time, just not in the way it’s done now!

nanna8 Sun 26-Apr-26 13:13:56

Yes, you are right. I suppose with social media it has become a lot more obvious.

petra Sun 26-Apr-26 13:28:53

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I imagine one would have to ‘subscribe’ to their media platform to enable influencers to make money.

“A fool and his money” comes to mind.

First you have to get a lot of likes before a company approaches you.
I know it’s not what we would call work but they do have to put in a lot of hours before they are signed up.
I don’t think a lot of people young or old know how it works.
My daughter was approached some years ago through her cooking/food blog on FB.
She declined as she knew how many hours you have to put in and her blog was just a bit of fun.

Casdon Sun 26-Apr-26 13:40:12

petra

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I imagine one would have to ‘subscribe’ to their media platform to enable influencers to make money.

“A fool and his money” comes to mind.

First you have to get a lot of likes before a company approaches you.
I know it’s not what we would call work but they do have to put in a lot of hours before they are signed up.
I don’t think a lot of people young or old know how it works.
My daughter was approached some years ago through her cooking/food blog on FB.
She declined as she knew how many hours you have to put in and her blog was just a bit of fun.

You don’t have to pay to subscribe, but the number of subscribers they have is important to influencers because when they have a certain number they attract advertisers, sponsorship for products they endorse, and gifts. YouTube pays revenue based on the number of views per episode, I don’t know about the other media outlets. I don’t see it differently to other forms of self employment - a lot of them do have other jobs too, and all power to them if they can make their everyday lives interesting enough for others to follow.

keepcalmandcavachon Sun 26-Apr-26 17:21:03

I watch several 'you tubers' and find their content uplifting and informative. Beautiful nature photography, inspiring gardens, fantastic book reviews and as well as rituals and ideas for mindfulness and wellbeing.
I am very aware of product placement/selling if it occurs but am grateful for it if it means that I get to access these videos for free whenever I wish sunshine

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 26-Apr-26 17:29:26

Hey okay I’ll start!
This just now is my meal for one.

Steak fried onions and veg.
Any likes? 😂

Gosh that was exhausting …. 😁

shoppinggirl Sun 26-Apr-26 17:34:21

I don't take much notice of 'influencers' until my Instagram feed came up with a woman sprayed shocking pink sitting on an elephant also spray painted pink to match her. I have no idea what she was promoting but I read the elephant had tragically died a month later from 'unknown causes' . It doesn't take a genius to work out why it died. I was genuinely sickened by it.

MT62 Sun 26-Apr-26 17:41:49

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Hey okay I’ll start!
This just now is my meal for one.

Steak fried onions and veg.
Any likes? 😂

Gosh that was exhausting …. 😁

😋

petra Sun 26-Apr-26 17:47:48

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Hey okay I’ll start!
This just now is my meal for one.

Steak fried onions and veg.
Any likes? 😂

Gosh that was exhausting …. 😁

You havnt advertised anything on the plate.
Advertising = likes = money.
You havnt staged the photo very well. It should view from above with appropriate lighting to bring out the food on the plate.
The placing and grouping of the food is important.

Sapphire1 Sun 26-Apr-26 17:53:36

The other word I hate, connected to influencers is 'Haul'. I once looked on You Tube at an influencer with her 'haul' of goods; encouraging others to get to Pandora immediately for the latest charms. She had boxes and boxes of new bracelets (at least 6) full of the new charms. The commentary ran: this one reminds me of mum, this one my sister, this one my house, this is my favourite colour, oh and this one if for my pet etc. There was thousands of pounds worth of jewellery - and she was encouraging her followers not to get one bracelet but a 'haul'. It made me feel quite ill thinking of the girls who would spend much more than they could possibly afford. She then opened drawers in her bedroom to show more bracelets, full of charms.I'm assuming her 'haul' was sponsored in some way, I never want to see this sort of influencer ever again. Promoting a product is one thing, this was just plain greed.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 26-Apr-26 18:00:15

Ah right Petra I see now how optics and product placement are crucial. 😁

However I’m a newbie to my new rôle, and as this is I GN can fully appreciate how other supermarket brands might get annoyed if I put out totally cost zero adverts for their rival! 😂

Doodledog Sun 26-Apr-26 18:44:50

As petra says, there is a lot more to influencing than posting a photo. They have to work out market segmentation, then get the various demographics to engage with them on an ongoing basis, so they have to be likeable and make different groups feel part of their 'tribe'. Photography is another skill, as are video and scriptwriting. They need to keep up with trends and know what is about to come into fashion in whatever market they operate in, and promote it skilfully and effectively.

I don't follow any - oh, I do subscribe (free) to Nick Lewis on YouTube. He talks about home decor that is realistic and achievable, and I like his sense of humour. I don't think I've bought anything as a result, however, as (a) he's Canadian, and both styles of house and available outlets vary between there and the UK, (b) I have my own style, (c) I'm old enough to be his mother, and (d) I'm not decorating anywhere, and don't watch with a view to being influenced, although I'm sure a few of his ideas have permeated my brain. I just enjoy his videos and as they're only about 15 minutes long I sometimes put one on if I've got a tiny bit of time to kill and it's not worth starting anything more productive.

On FB I like looking at vegetarian recipes being cooked, and they tend to promote ingredients such as Nooch (nutritional yeast) or new ranges of pans or other cookware. I am aware that they are promotions, and decide whether to get things or not. Usually not, as I don't replace things like pans unless it's necessary. I'm on my second set in over 40 years of marriage. I might try a new ingredient if I like the look of it, but I might just as easily be influenced by a TV ad, a friend recommending it, a special offer in Sainsbury's. What's the difference?

It's the same with people buying make-up or phones. If you're interested and click through you see more of the same, but not if you don't. There is no point in anyone pushing make-up at me, as I don't buy or wear it (or very little). I'd rather have ads targeted at what I actually want as, say, the ones on TV with dancing builders singing about diarrhoea, but they are harder to avoid if you want to watch live TV.

I don't think the new usage of the word 'haul' is anything sinister or greedy. It's a more modern way of saying 'purchases' - 'Look at what I bought today' sort of thing. Nobody needs to feel they have to buy all of it - young people are savvy, and are fully aware that it's a sales pitch.

More insidious (to me) is the way 'beach bodies' and the like are promoted, so normal shaped girls can feel inadequate. To be fair, though, Jackie magazine did the same in the 70s, and women's magazines always had diets and calorie counted recipes. I haven't seen the Manosphere ones, but wish they weren't influencing young men and boys.

Oreo Sun 26-Apr-26 18:46:40

Graphite

It’s only another word for someone pushing a product or a lifestyle, no different to advertising.

Celebrities have long been used to push products on TV. Influencing is just the social media equivalent.

What’s the difference between George Clooney advertising Nespresso or a long list of celebrities advertising for M&S?

I think there’s a certain amount of egalitarianism in social media influencing that’s to be applauded. A person can build a following (and a fortune) from nothing rather than having to be famous to start with.

I agree with that.

J52 Sun 26-Apr-26 18:54:42

RosiesMawagain

If I ignore them, will they just go away?

I’d like to think I am my own person and any «influence» is more likely to have the opposite effect.

I agree.

Norah Sun 26-Apr-26 19:07:18

Another person submitting advertisement and opinions.

SueDonim Sun 26-Apr-26 19:11:29

FGT grin

I think it’s the insidiousness that can be creepy. There are influencers trying to sell facial beauty products to toddlers and other snake oil products. Others are giving out health advice without scientific backing.

There’s the likes of Clavicular, who encourages ‘looksmaxxing’ by smashing one’s facial bones with a hammer, or others who promote suicide to their audience.

It’s not all advertising brands of coffee.