Harry and Meghan. UK Visit.

Iam64
He feels entitled. The reality is that he does not need tax payers funded (armed) security.
The only threat is to his ego.

Yes obviously he feels in need of security.

But so do lots of high profile people nvolved with the media.
It’s a personal decision to live in that way.

There’s no rational reason for it to be provided by the tax payer .

It’s how he feels.

Luckygirl3

*If they just quietly visited privately there would be no problem.*

I don't think it is possible for them to do that, especially on this occasion when there is a high profile Invictus Games occasion at which he is speaking.

Harry knows from his experiences from birth that doing anything quietly and privately gets scuppered by the media scramble.

Actually I think that last sentence is one f those sweeping statements- along the lines “well documented that the Spare has a hard time’ - that doesn’t bear factual research.

Most of the media coverage of his childhood and early teenage years was “official”, with the media respecting a long held agreement that children were not their targets but that they would be provided with plentiful official opportunities.

Schools, organisations and friends were discreet.

As is evidenced with Williams children today.

The ‘he’s always had a hard time” doesn’t actually stand up to scrutiny for those who are interested in facts.

But not reliably. When you read the venom expressed against them I would want to play safe if it were my precious children.

Well, they managed to avoid being papped this time!
Shows it can be done.

If they just quietly visited privately there would be no problem.

I don't think it is possible for them to do that, especially on this occasion when there is a high profile Invictus Games occasion at which he is speaking.

Harry knows from his experiences from birth that doing anything quietly and privately gets scuppered by the media scramble.

Visiting the king wouldn't be a security issue either.

Just saying the obvious.

If they just quietly visited privately there would be no problem.
It's announcing everything and it all being so public that's the issue.

Most people would be happy for them to quietly visit family.
It just makes no sense to me that they broadcast so much.

How lovely to have had a visit.
Maybe now they will do this again.
🤞

Luckygirl3

MarieElla

So they need to stop being twats, apologise to the RF and all the people whose privacy H abused in his book and then they might be in less danger (of being laughed atand booed)
What a bad example they've set for their children...

This is exactly why they are right to be concrrned about security.

Of coursethey should be concerned about security. They have chosen a high profile, media active life and have been forthright in their opinions of world situations, governments and individuals.

Others who have followed that path also have to be concerned about their security.

When you work for a country, government or institution in that type of role you expect them to provide the security you need.

But when you leave your security becomes your own responsibility unless you are still relevant in some way that would continue to have an effect in the present.

It’s not a matter of whether he personally needs security. Lots of high profile people do, but whether his security enough of a relevant matter for the UK to pay for it.

The judgement is, it is not.

Luckygirl13
Exactly.
If they could pipe down and accept their status they would not be putting themselves and their children at risk.
Their biggest fault is their inflated sense of importance.
All their own fault.
Why should we pay for that??

Luckygirl3

Someone on another thread asked:
*I hesitate sometimes about Prince Harry and his family.
Are they right to get alarmed about their security arrangements? Or are they not?*
I think they are ..... the venom that is directed at them via social media and the press must be a cause for concern.

That was me.

Ironically I think it is a worse situation for them now, then it was before.

The level of nasty cruel aggressive comments about H and M is awful

MarieElla

So they need to stop being twats, apologise to the RF and all the people whose privacy H abused in his book and then they might be in less danger (of being laughed atand booed)
What a bad example they've set for their children...

This is exactly why they are right to be concrrned about security.

So they need to stop being twats, apologise to the RF and all the people whose privacy H abused in his book and then they might be in less danger (of being laughed atand booed)
What a bad example they've set for their children...

Luckygirl3

Someone on another thread asked:
*I hesitate sometimes about Prince Harry and his family.
Are they right to get alarmed about their security arrangements? Or are they not?*
I think they are ..... the venom that is directed at them via social media and the press must be a cause for concern.

I agree -

Someone on another thread asked:
*I hesitate sometimes about Prince Harry and his family.
Are they right to get alarmed about their security arrangements? Or are they not?*
I think they are ..... the venom that is directed at them via social media and the press must be a cause for concern.

Calendargirl

Why all the drama?

If, and it’s a big ‘if’, they do all come, why do we need to hear so much about it?

They could fly in discreetly, go to whichever ‘royal’ accommodation they have been offered, Harry could do his Invictus business (on his own, nothing that requires Meg’s involvement as the actual event is still a whole year away), the King could meet the family privately if that’s what he wants to do, then they could all fly back to California and it could then be reported on the news.

All this pre visit nonsense will have been released by the Sussexes.

In the aftermath of the meet up between the King, Queen, Harry, Meghan and family, I am quoting my post of a few days ago.

Apart from the royal accommodation, this is exactly how it all played out in the end.

Why could it all have not happened like this in the first place, I wonder?

The failed court case comes to mind. Perhaps even Meghan is coming to realise they need the Royals far more than the Royals need them?

My younger GC love the " cool" teenager". He is especially taken with the new baby.
I did refer also, in my post , to the role of aunts and uncles. They, too, admire the growth of the baby, applaud the trumpet playing, are impressed by end of term school reports, etc.
I would wish these other interested adults in the life of all children, especially if they can tell a scurrilous tale about some behaviours of the child's parent from the past..

NotSpaghetti

I expect the UK royal children also see something of Eugenie and Beatrice's children now and again.

Bit younger though for George and Charlotte, especially Beatrice’s

Bit nearer age wise for Louis.

I expect the UK royal children also see something of Eugenie and Beatrice's children now and again.

Meghan's sister Samantha has three children and her brother Thomas has two.

We don't even know if there are any cousins on Meghan's side!!

Yes, H&M’s children have no relationship with Meghan’s family as well as the Royals, apart from Granny Doria of course.

Whereas the Royal children see Zara’s family and Peter Phillips’ children, some of whom are similar ages. You see Charlotte and Mia Tindall chatting away together at the Christmas Day church service.

And I’m sure they see a lot of Pippa Middleton’s children.

I think I can guess which side has a more ‘rounded’ view of family.

My daughter's boys and their cousins on the dad's side see each other every couple of years.
They aren't in touch in-between though the parents and grandparents are.

We have three "lots" of grandchildren and their relationships with their cousins varies a lot it seems to me.