Tuchel urges parents to let kids stay up for England game

I feel sorry for parents who are at work on Monday morning so their kids will have to go to bed on time and go to school on time ( my son and daughter fit that category) and will have very disgruntled children. And the number of people who will be driving around over the limit that morning, too. Would understand if it was the final but can’t help but feel they’re making a lot of fuss about a knockout game that we’ll probably lose anyway ( I’m not taken with our performance so far).

Iam64

It’s one night - let’s give people/parents responsibility for deciding what their plan for the England-Mexico game will be.

The problem isn’t football - it’s excessive drinking that fuels domestic abuse. That’s an issue that men need to address and not just on big football occasions
Come on England

Exactly Iam64 blaming football or any big sporting event for domestic violence is tantamount to giving these abusive men an excuse for their despicable behaviour.

It’s one night - let’s give people/parents responsibility for deciding what their plan for the England-Mexico game will be.

The problem isn’t football - it’s excessive drinking that fuels domestic abuse. That’s an issue that men need to address and not just on big football occasions
Come on England

With pubs being permitted to stay open all night for the football, I feel so sorry for those who are unfortunate enough to live near one, especially the many thousands of folk who have absolutely no interest whatsoever in football.

Yes you could argue that those who bought a house despite its proximity to a pub can’t be too bothered by noise, but honestly, a din going on all night?
What a nightmare, especially for those who don’t have the luxury of going in to work later on the Monday.

And, it’s not even the final !

They’ll stay up if the parents allow it. I’d probably have sent mine to bed early then let them get up to watch, and I’m not a football fan.

Well, better to be disappointed in the result having had a good night sleep?
Playing football at altitude makes sure the home team always wins.
It’s ridiculous to allow Mexico to choose that venue.

Oreo

The kids could go to bed at a normal time but get up early at say 6 a.m and watch the recorded match while they eat breakfast.Then go to school.

Not the same though, is it 🤷‍♀️

The kids could go to bed at a normal time but get up early at say 6 a.m and watch the recorded match while they eat breakfast.Then go to school.

Bodach

Jaxjacky

Nobody I know would waste beer in such a manner Bodach are you confused with the Winbledon/Henley crowd and champagne?

I am as one with you, Jaxjacky, in abhorring such an egregious waste of the Amber Nectar - but on the matter of observing the current generation of football fans' celebratory rites, may respectfully suggest that you get out more? TV coverage of every England goal I have been forced to watch (Impossible to avoid, as three quarters of every news bulletin is crammed with the *!! World Cup) quickly switches to the obligatory outside broadcast replay from some pub/social club/car park, where the assembled punters leap to their feet and fling their plastic tumblers-full skywards in a paroxysm of communal ecstasy. As to wasting champagne in a similar manner; I hold that in equal contempt. I blame Formula One...(another sport I don't watch).

Do they actually use champagne or is it fizzy water? I always think how horrible and sticky it must make everything …

We must be more parsimonious in our local!

Jaxjacky

Nobody I know would waste beer in such a manner Bodach are you confused with the Winbledon/Henley crowd and champagne?

I am as one with you, Jaxjacky, in abhorring such an egregious waste of the Amber Nectar - but on the matter of observing the current generation of football fans' celebratory rites, may respectfully suggest that you get out more? TV coverage of every England goal I have been forced to watch (Impossible to avoid, as three quarters of every news bulletin is crammed with the *!! World Cup) quickly switches to the obligatory outside broadcast replay from some pub/social club/car park, where the assembled punters leap to their feet and fling their plastic tumblers-full skywards in a paroxysm of communal ecstasy. As to wasting champagne in a similar manner; I hold that in equal contempt. I blame Formula One...(another sport I don't watch).

Nobody I know would waste beer in such a manner Bodach are you confused with the Winbledon/Henley crowd and champagne?

...just so long (in the event that England win the match) as the children don't go to school next morning still reeking of the fizzy lager that their parents sprayed all over the living room ceiling at the winning goal/final whistle. That would appear to be the a la mode expression of celebration amongst football fans these days. Bring back clapping and calls of "Good shot Kane" or "Well played, chaps"" I say.
Full disclosure: I shall be delighted when both the World Cup and Wimbledon finally come to their respective over-hyped conclusions, and the whole media frenzy finally subsides. Bah! Humbug!

The hungover or still drunk parent who will be angry and resentful if England lose will be the same parent who will be angry if England win.

Domestic Abuse will spike either way.
Sadly, Merlotgran.

That child is going to suffer either way.

i would send a note in on friday to say my child will be off on monday morning.....well i would if my son was still young and it was scotland playing, it is only 1 game and every 4 years, plenty of adults will be throwing a sick day on monday.

LBC this afternoon surprised me by having an otherwise "fairly strict" headteacher on talking about this. I want to say it was Christopher McCormack, of Cranford College

Anyway he argued that forcing kids into rigid compliance over an exceptional, massive cultural moment like a World Cup knockout game misses the bigger picture of what a school community should be.

He was asked if he'd be giving out fines and said that instead of threatening punishments for being late, he advocated for flexibility. He said he was expecting sleepy children but that sharing these historic moments with friends and family creates social bonding that is just as vital to a young person's growth and development as an extra hour in the classroom -especially this time of year.

GrannyGravy13

Most of the England players came from humble/poor backgrounds.

Football gives children chances, confidence and enjoyment.

Schools have been using the World Cup as a learning tool

With so much despair and growing wars, it’s great to see this as a coming together of young and old.

Indeed, as I pointed out, my GS has been learning about all the different countries taking part. He's outside in the garden playing football right now, before watching tonight's match. Anything which encourages children to get out and play has to be a good thing, surely?

And that's exactly what Tuchel might have meant in a roundabout way if you read what he said. That we need the support especially of the children, ie the next generation.
Or he might have said it tongue in cheek for all we know.
Either way, it's no big deal.

GrannyGravy13

Most of the England players came from humble/poor backgrounds.

Football gives children chances, confidence and enjoyment.

Schools have been using the World Cup as a learning tool

With so much despair and growing wars, it’s great to see this as a coming together of young and old.

Good point GrannyGravy13.

Football remains an opportunity for less advantaged children to succeed. Marcus Rashford’s family, especially his mum, supported him and he’s returned that support in buckets.

I’m well aware that not all children live in secure loving families and that domestic abuse rises during occasions like the World Cup. Awful but that shouldn’t stop the vast majority of loving parents from making the decision that suits their families

rafichagran both of my parents were in the hospitality sector, it’s always been a slog, but never as bad as nowadays.

Glad the pubs are staying open, it means a much needed cash injection for the hospitality industry that has had a hard time of late.

Most of the England players came from humble/poor backgrounds.

Football gives children chances, confidence and enjoyment.

Schools have been using the World Cup as a learning tool

With so much despair and growing wars, it’s great to see this as a coming together of young and old.

merlotgran

I’m not a moaner. I’m enjoying the World Cup and I like a 🍷. I was just pointing out that not all children have loving and caring parents.
Pubs are now going to be allowed to stay open all night.
It’s not even the final.
🤷‍♀️

I agree with you, but these children should be on the radar of some organisation.
Should the Schools not have holidays in that case? The majority of people are decent, they love football, and have every right to decide if their children once every four years watch the match.
What suggestion would you make?
I think people choose to look for things that happen to a very sad minority of children to stop the majority enjoying themselves. We cannot be responsible for all the bad things that happen in the world.

It’s one day, or morning, im ok with it.

It seems very strange to me. It gives the impression that football is important, which it really isn’t. (I know some will disagree with that.)

I really don’t think schools should give that impression.