If you are that concerned about rats, mice and possibly birds being ātorturedā I think you have the wrong pets.
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Yesterday, I was bitten by a ratā¦. š
(152 Posts)I have a new puppy patterdale cross with border terrier,16 weeks old (and I know his breed is a ratter) and he gets on very well with my young cat about 15 months old. My older cat George is nine he wants nothing to do with either of them. He will just sit and look very aloof if they are performing which they do rolling around in the grass with each other.
Anyway, I digress, Yesterday morning I let Duke out for his run around my garden,is quite big and even though the ground isnāt hot at this time of morning the Sun is still beating down so I will not take him out for a walk til about 9pm this. He can run around in the garden and come in when heās finished.
In the morning he was down the bottom of the garden and he was barking quite frantically. I knew he had something there when I went. It was a terrified little rat. I pulled Duke off and put him indoors went to get the rat picked him up. Was trying to walk him to safety and he bit me.I know he mustāve been terrified so I donāt hold a grudge against being bitten by him šµāš«
111 advised a tetanus the Hospital after being checked, I havenāt had a tetanus jab since 99
So I got two buses to get to local A&E long story short They basically washed the wound with iodine they put a dressing on. and gave me some antibiotics and that was it basically
I came home let the dog out and he went straight to the place he went before and that the poor rat he had moved at all. I donāt think he could move, so I picked him up again (I probably shouldnāt, but did it because I donāt like to see anything in a state of fear š° )
Anyway I put him in a little container with some grass and some water and thought he really not gonna make it, but Iād assume that he would pass away in peace and quiet and out being pounced upon by dogs and cats
I have been out this morning heās still alive, but his back legs are damaged and I donāt think heāll survive. I am going to ring my vet and see if anything can be done.
I know, I probably do have rats under my Shed and thatās my business before anybody jumps on me, I do have two cats and now a terrier as well, so Iām hoping that the head of the family will be talking to the family of rats and sayā Hey, it was bad enough with two cats now sheās got a blinking terrier. We really must move on.ā
I will not poison down or set nasty traps (I donāt want any creature to die in agony)Have seen him this morning and he seems very weak. I think his back legs have been damaged so like I say I will get hold of my vetā¦
a small container in my small shirt with a bit of grass and some water
MissAdventure
Ah, I missed the part about ratty dying in the night.
Apologies, I thought he was still alive and suffering, with no chance of fending for himself.
I went to see him 6:30 am he was barely alive. I went down again at 9:30 and he had gone. Iāve got to dig in a little graveā¦.. canāt bear to put him in the rubbish or in the compost ..š¢
Ah, I missed the part about ratty dying in the night.
Apologies, I thought he was still alive and suffering, with no chance of fending for himself.
Iām a humanist and Iām not sure that this is a religious issue Shinamae š¤. I just think you seem a very kind and caring person.
MissAdventure
The kindest, quickest dispatch method would be to let Duke do the job.
Over in a couple of minutes, instead of however many hours this has taken until now.
The thing is, Duke was not doing āhis jobā He was doing what he does with the cat pouring at it and trying to play with it anyway, as Iāve said the poor thing died during the nightā¦š¢
I know thereās a lot of Christians on this site. I am not a Christian. Iām an agnostic but still, I will not see anything suffer if I can see a way to help it.
pably15
Get pest control in ,you say you think they're under your hut, so they can get into your house,they carry disease especially in their urine, some of my neighbours and myself had rats in our houses, we contacted the pest control who came out and put poison down,then came back the following 2 weeks, to make sure they had been at the poison.and I'd let your neighbours know to be on the lookout.
I will not be doing that!!
Luckygirl3
Surprised you were not given tetanus.
Let the wee rat die. Or it will grow into a big rat that will reproduce at an alarming rate and infest your garden. Goodbye wee rat! Time to be recycled!
I checked on it earlier and it has died. I did have a booster tetanus.
Esmay
I would kill the rat .
It's suffering .
If there's one rat -there are more and your dog will seek them out .
It's his natural instinct.
I hope that the bite will not cause you any problems.
Please wear gloves next time if you must touch them.
I would not allow rats to breed under my shed -they are a health risk.
I know that you are tender hearted and kind !
I know some people who look like they could be a house risk and I certainly wouldnāt let them live under my Shed! š±
As the rats donāt pay rent they shouldnāt be living there šbut I donāt mind, as I have two cats and now a Patterdale I really think the head of the family should be saying ā We really ought to move now because sheās got two cats and that damn dogā
I know the cat has got a couple in the past and Iām sure when Duke is old enough he probably will as well and that will be nature far as Iām concerned,I will not put poison under the Shed to give those poor animals a disgraceful very painful death I would not do that. They can take their chances with the cats and dog.
About the glove thing yes it probably was an unwise thing to do but I was in the moment if I had gone to get gloves which hadnāt entered my head that poor little rat wouldāve been even more terrified..
Shinamae
ViceVersa
Should have just let the dog deal with the rat. That's what I would have done.
What you would left another animal to be terrified out of its wits to be tortured by a dog would you?
Well, I wouldnāt
It wasn't meant to sound harsh. It would have been the easiest way to deal with the situation and you would have avoided getting bitten and all the potential consequences from that. When it comes down to it, if it's a choice between leaving the dog to deal with the rat (as it was bred to do) or letting a human get bitten by the rat, it's no contest really. That's the brutal reality of it.
I've lost count of the amount of 'casualties' I've had to deal with from our dogs (and cats) over the years. 'Nature, red in tooth and claw'.
ViceVersa
Should have just let the dog deal with the rat. That's what I would have done.
What you would left another animal to be terrified out of its wits to be tortured by a dog would you?
Well, I wouldnāt
25Avalon can you tell me where you bought your ultra sonic pest repellent from? I had one for years but it stopped working and I know they do not all work, so if youāre happy to recommend Iād be grateful.
Often ferrets are used to clear farms overrun with rats.
I've watched on youtube, farms that are overrun with rats, and men with teams of patterdales that are called in to deal with the problem.
The dogs love it - the rats, not so much.
The dog just shake the rat, and its over in seconds.
It's what Patterdales were bred for. The pup would have acted on instinct and would have put the rat out of its misery without any interference. No bite, no hand-wringing...
You were kind to help the rat to escape from the dog, but now you have to be equally kind and put him out of his misery.
And keep an eye on your bite and how you feel in yourself. š¤
I hope your vet will be able to put it out of its misery Shinamae or as 25Avalon has suggested, you could contact the RSPCA.
I hate rats but couldn't walk away knowing my dog was killing it and doubt I'd have had the courage to pick it up either. I think you're both brave and compassionate.
The kindest, quickest dispatch method would be to let Duke do the job.
Over in a couple of minutes, instead of however many hours this has taken until now.
As far as I am concerned the only good rat is a dead one, apart from the white ones kept as pets which I still shudder at. Nonetheless an injured animal rat or otherwise should be despatched as humanely and as quickly as possible. Drowning is not nice but neither is leaving the poor thing to die slowly from its injuries. Itās a good idea to ring the RSPCA for advice on the best course of action.
To keep rats away I never leave anything they might like to eat in the garden and indoors I have an ultra sonic pest repellent to keep rats and mice out. Hopefully it works for squirrels too who can cause more damage.
We have a friend who encourages and feeds the many rats who live on his porch. Fortunately he lives abroad so we wonāt be going anywhere near them.
If you canāt face hitting it with a hammer could you drown it? There will always be rats around especially if you have a bird feeder. When I go away I sometimes put my plants in plastic containers with water in; when I do this you can guarantee it will rain for two weeks and I once found a poor dead rat that had drowned. I usually put sticks in any containers that might fill up with water so mice can get out. I think that tetanus jabs do last longer than the ten years they say they will but, even so I think you should have been given one to be safe. Facebook spotted might give an address of a local wildlife rescue that could help perhaps? I donāt like the idea of rats being poisoned because other wildlife will then eat them and die too.
He's lovely merlotgran. We have one that visits us but he's a poor looking thing these days. Two lovely deer have taken to visiting us too. All welcome (except rats!)
The better thing theyve come up with is patterdale terriers.
pably15
Get pest control in ,you say you think they're under your hut, so they can get into your house,they carry disease especially in their urine, some of my neighbours and myself had rats in our houses, we contacted the pest control who came out and put poison down,then came back the following 2 weeks, to make sure they had been at the poison.and I'd let your neighbours know to be on the lookout.
Some animal lovers abhor the use of poisons.
In this day and age surely someone, somewhere, must have come up with something better?
What about traps which catch and automatically electrocute? Is there such a thing?
Get pest control in ,you say you think they're under your hut, so they can get into your house,they carry disease especially in their urine, some of my neighbours and myself had rats in our houses, we contacted the pest control who came out and put poison down,then came back the following 2 weeks, to make sure they had been at the poison.and I'd let your neighbours know to be on the lookout.
all rats are really clever
I wouldn't get anywhere near a wild one though
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