Craig and Lindsay Foreman end their hunger strike in prison in Iran.

Seapebble

Silvershadow

What a nasty thing to say Tuliptree. Honestly! Some people on this website are just beyond the pale really.

I agree. Tuliptree and several others have clearly never made a foolish error of judgement, a decision involving high risk or a danger to themselves. Is that a rich life, fully lived? If we all chose the absolutely safe route there would be no pioneers, no adventurers, no risk takers - what kind of world would that be? No Isaac Newton with the experiments he did on himself. No Marie Curie, no Florence Nightingale, no Edith Cavell, no Boudicca. I had lots of hair raising adventures in my time (I did nothing as heroic as those listed). A foolish, wayward idiot I was sometimes but what adventures I had. As far as we know, this couple are not paedophiles or even greedy oligarchs. For their foolhardy choices they are now suffering extreme hardship and mental anguish. It's not "faux emotion" for me. It's a real feeling of empathy - not an emotion of which I'm ashamed.

👏👏 seapebble.

Like I said in my earlier post people often leave their senses behind when they travel abroad whether on holiday or adventures.

Nearly every week there’s a go fund me appeal for people stuck in foreign countries because they did not take out the appropriate insurance for things like horseriding, bungee jumping or other risky pastimes.

I am sympathetic for this couple and their family just as I was for the Iranian lady who got imprisoned out there when visiting her parents.

Tuliptree

Rosie51

There is a difference between having no sympathy for them and actually seeming to relish the punishment they're receiving.

Utter rubbish - it’s a bit of a stretch between having no sympathy and relishing. I frankly do not care at all about them and wish they weren’t wasting FO resources funded by us taxpayers.

Thanks for that considered, polite post. I wonder why you felt the need to post it?

Rosie51

There is a difference between having no sympathy for them and actually seeming to relish the punishment they're receiving.

Utter rubbish - it’s a bit of a stretch between having no sympathy and relishing. I frankly do not care at all about them and wish they weren’t wasting FO resources funded by us taxpayers.

Rosie51

There is a difference between having no sympathy for them and actually seeming to relish the punishment they're receiving.

Yes.

We can wonder how could they be so arrogant and foolhardy but still feel the 'crime' did not deserve that punishment. That is because we do not live under a repressive regime which considers mass murder of its citizens is just punishment for disagreeing with them.

So you’re not prepared to respond about who you’re calling a bitch then? What makes you think using that word even with a pathetic childish comma is acceptable?

There is a difference between having no sympathy for them and actually seeming to relish the punishment they're receiving.

That's an enlightening post Seapebble. Thank you.

I know. But they were granted visas and I believe they booked with a tour company, so visits were still allowed, presumably at your own peril. They must have been aware of the warnings then gone off and done their own thing. I agree they surely knew the consequences.

JenniRen

Iran is a very beautiful country with a rich heritage and beautiful architecture.
In normal times it would probably be on some people's bucket lists.

But that’s not relevant atm is it? And they knew that

Iran is a very beautiful country with a rich heritage and beautiful architecture.
In normal times it would probably be on some people's bucket lists.

Tworedroses

I agree with you. Wait now for the nasty put downs and know it all comments.

Disagreeing = nasty put downs . Know it all comments - well yes, I do know a great deal so I’m fine with that.

No matter how foolish these people were they do not deserve this ! Tuliptree were you born unsympathetic or did it take practice!?
Silvershadow is corrrct beyond the pale indeed. Tuliptree you appall me . What a horrid and despicable thing to 'say'
Your comments have made me feel sick, although I understand that how I feel is beyond your ability to understand .

Seapebble - a rich life fully lived? I think loving and caring for your children, not chasing your own dreams and leaving them to pick up the pieces when it all goes pear shaped. That’s a rich life fully lived.

And I didn't see the two previous posts before I posted mine so it is a standalone statement, not a response to anyone.

Tworedroses

I agree with you. Wait now for the nasty put downs and know it all comments.

My comment to seapebble

They thought they knew better than experts and Government officials and now are paying the price. We were all aware of what the regime was like although they were in fact granted visas to go there.
Instead of just touring they chatted to local people which made the authorities suspicious and guilty of espionage.

Surely the Iranian Government doesn't really think the British Government would employ two such people as spies? They were far too obvious if they were gathering information. More Johnny English than James Bond.

I agree with you. Wait now for the nasty put downs and know it all comments.

Silvershadow

What a nasty thing to say Tuliptree. Honestly! Some people on this website are just beyond the pale really.

I agree. Tuliptree and several others have clearly never made a foolish error of judgement, a decision involving high risk or a danger to themselves. Is that a rich life, fully lived? If we all chose the absolutely safe route there would be no pioneers, no adventurers, no risk takers - what kind of world would that be? No Isaac Newton with the experiments he did on himself. No Marie Curie, no Florence Nightingale, no Edith Cavell, no Boudicca. I had lots of hair raising adventures in my time (I did nothing as heroic as those listed). A foolish, wayward idiot I was sometimes but what adventures I had. As far as we know, this couple are not paedophiles or even greedy oligarchs. For their foolhardy choices they are now suffering extreme hardship and mental anguish. It's not "faux emotion" for me. It's a real feeling of empathy - not an emotion of which I'm ashamed.

Sparky51

Goodness...what a Ɓ,tch....

Who is that post aimed at? And btw the word is bitch - putting in a , doesn’t change anything.

Goodness...what a Ɓ,tch....

Tuliptree

You might say spiteful, I’d just say clear eyed and not full of sentimental claptrap and support for two selfish idiots - and it’s not just me who thinks this is it?

No, you're not alone there.

I didn’t think Tuliptree sounded spiteful. Just realistic. Any parents who set off on a completely foolhardy trip against all advice and ignores the pleas of their own children does not come across as particularly loving or devoted.

You reap what you sow! They ignored FO advice because they obviously knew better. Absolutely no sympathy just annoyed they and their family now expect UK government to dig them out of their self inflicted predicament.

Tuliptree isn’t in the least bit spiteful . Just realistic and they were selfish going against the advice of their poor family and the government. Do the crime, pay the fine.

To be honest JenniferEccles I don't know as it was the virtual end of the programme so didn't get the backstory but it looked so shifty.

The voice over didn't give any indication of a sale or any future plans for the place which was what caught my attention really, it was as if they were locking it up and abandoning it with no concern about anything other than this big adventure they seemed absolutely determined to get off to in a mad rush.

Up to them of course, their property & all, but it came across as odd and, just from that brief view, unsurprising that they ignored all advice and just went ahead with their plans.