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Is Gransnet leaning more to the left?

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Sago Tue 20-Oct-26 19:19:59

After looking through the thread on the Guardian top 10 books it prompted me to revisit a thread I started in August re the Daily Telegraph top 50 books.

The responses were pretty negative on the whole, it would seem posters felt the list was “subjective, tosh, prescriptive, snobbery, silly, objective, woke”

The Guardian list was far better received.

This got me thinking is Gransnet leaning too far left?

I asked Chat GPT’s opinion.

Here’s some of the feedback.

Some 10 active posters create 43% of posts.

During the 2024 election academic research found strong views on both sides.

The researchers described the discussions as politically diverse and sometimes polarised.

The most interesting though was a Trustpilot review.
This echoed my my feelings exactly.

“Gransnet is the sister site for the very well known Mumsnet site but aimed at Grandparents and mainly over 50s.

It has so much potential to be a great site and there are some really nice, helpful people on there with a wide range of discussions which are usually pretty lively, supportive and informative.

Unfortunately in more recent times it has become very cliquey with a number of Far Left supporters who tend to dominate any discussion on politics and news and seem to spend all their time on there arguing fiercely with people who do not share their views and they can get very aggressive and rude. The Gransnet moderators used to do a great job but if you report them now, the nasty comments remain which is very unfair. moderators should be unbiased but it looks as though they favour people on the Left. These contributors also like to belittle others or make sarcastic remarks about grammar, spelling etc which, again, are usually allowed.

It is also very sad that several people have either been banned from the site with no good reason given and others have just left because it is so cliquey.”

Casdon Tue 20-Oct-26 21:28:49

Galaxy

Actually many centrists views would now be viewed as far right. Much of the stuff the left is now saying would have been considered insanity 10 years ago. It is why you have a number of originally from the left commentators saying for goodness sake stop this.

That’s just the other side of the same coin though.

MaizieD Tue 20-Oct-26 21:17:28

I'm not clear as to whether to OP is talking about the entirety of GNet or the News and Politics forum in particular. Chat Gtp's analysis cold well be of that forum, as could be the anonymous Trustpilot review, but when you consider the very wide range of forums offered by Gnet, most of which seem to have no political bias whatsoever I can't see either critiques applying to Gnet forums as a whole.

I tend to agree with Casdon here:

Everybody can join in, but throwaway comments without any substance or evidence are given scant attention because the debate is more important than the view,

MG55 Tue 20-Oct-26 21:15:13

Wyllow3

Its got it really wrong as regards, "Far Left" I've been in the left since I was 14 and really know the difference (Communist Party Mum and Dad)

Many of the so called "left wing views" were actually standard "left conservative views) 40 years ago. (as in paternalistic but welfare supporting Conservatism). Politics have moved tot he right, but the huge majority of posters are centre or centre left.

Above all, remember that although News and Politics are a big section, most discussions on GN are on other topics.

We don*t know what those Gransnetters vote at all Do how can AI speak as it were for them? It can only draw data from the N and P or some of the chat threads.

Good point 👏👏

Galaxy Tue 20-Oct-26 21:10:44

Actually many centrists views would now be viewed as far right. Much of the stuff the left is now saying would have been considered insanity 10 years ago. It is why you have a number of originally from the left commentators saying for goodness sake stop this.

Wyllow3 Tue 20-Oct-26 21:04:03

Its got it really wrong as regards, "Far Left" I've been in the left since I was 14 and really know the difference (Communist Party Mum and Dad)

Many of the so called "left wing views" were actually standard "left conservative views) 40 years ago. (as in paternalistic but welfare supporting Conservatism). Politics have moved tot he right, but the huge majority of posters are centre or centre left.

Above all, remember that although News and Politics are a big section, most discussions on GN are on other topics.

We don*t know what those Gransnetters vote at all Do how can AI speak as it were for them? It can only draw data from the N and P or some of the chat threads.

LemonJam Tue 20-Oct-26 21:02:29

Have any others see far left posts recently like this single trust pilot poster?

LemonJam Tue 20-Oct-26 21:01:04

Casdon I agree re Trustpilot single post. It is representative of that single person’s view and not representative at all.

The very very many other Gransnet members can though form a view on whether posts are far left or far right according to accepted definitions not withstanding their personal political leaning I would have thought. Though accept others may not hold my view.

Wyllow3 Tue 20-Oct-26 20:56:41

"What will Chat GPT and AI mean for schools and homework?

www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zc9kqyc

Some news articles and celebrities have reported that ChatGPT will "end homework", with Elon Musk tweeting "It's a new world. Goodbye homework!"
While ChatGPT can answer questions which may be able to help you out with homework, it might not always give the correct facts.
This is because its main purpose is to create sentences that could have been written by a human - rather than searching the internet for facts.

This means it can sometimes get things wrong, which wouldn't be good for homework 😳

Casdon Tue 20-Oct-26 20:55:15

LemonJam

We can though view posts the lens is accepted political of far right and far left though.

In context of accepted definition of what far left means I have not seen any far left views on Gransnet myself in recent months. There is no far left uk party featuring anywhere in polls either.

A Trust pilot review is through a person’s individual lens though, so it would not need to be an accurate representation of the accepted definition of far left to be called that.

MollyNew Tue 20-Oct-26 20:52:59

My observation is that there are a range of views expressed on GN, most of which are what I would think of as centre/right or centre/left. I'd be interested to know what sort of comments the Trustpilot reviewer classed as "Far Left".

MG55 Tue 20-Oct-26 20:52:18

Thank you valdali 👍

MG55 Tue 20-Oct-26 20:50:31

LemonJam

I share your view MG55- to me thats the human side and beauty of Gransnet 💐

Yes, LemonJam, I think you have summed up what I was trying to say.
The human side is really saying that we are all products of a number of things and those things shape us and our views.
In my own family we have a wide range of views which we have to negotiate and try not to fall out over. Not easy at all 💐

LemonJam Tue 20-Oct-26 20:49:37

We can though view posts the lens is accepted political of far right and far left though.

In context of accepted definition of what far left means I have not seen any far left views on Gransnet myself in recent months. There is no far left uk party featuring anywhere in polls either.

Casdon Tue 20-Oct-26 20:39:33

Whether you consider a post far left or far right surely depends on your own stance, so I don’t think anybody could objectively answer that question LemonJam, because none of us see ourselves as others see us.

valdali Tue 20-Oct-26 20:38:30

MG55

Chat GPT opinion??

I think in the OP, Chat GPT said the political discussions were diverse & informative.

The bit about far left, argumentative & cliquey was from Trustpilot on the basis of one person's review.

If I read the OP right that is.

LemonJam Tue 20-Oct-26 20:38:16

I share your view MG55- to me thats the human side and beauty of Gransnet 💐

LemonJam Tue 20-Oct-26 20:36:50

I haven’t seen any far left posts on Gransnet last few months- have you?

MG55 Tue 20-Oct-26 20:32:18

I have always been very impressed with the range of views shown on Gransnet and I am always interested in reading the articulate and thoughtful explanations from the political leanings on either side.
Two minutes later, on another thread, when another Gransnetter needs support, the above protagonists are there to offer it 💐

LemonJam Tue 20-Oct-26 20:27:00

Sago

Who mentioned far left?🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

You - plus and your Trustpilot quote in OP 🤷‍♀️

Bukkie Tue 20-Oct-26 20:09:57

Sorry I meant the far right and racist. I obviously can't type abd watch television.

Casdon Tue 20-Oct-26 20:07:07

Yes, it means it’s not a reliable indicator, for sure.

I think the only place on Gransnet where you really see what people’s political views are is on the news and politics threads. I do think there are more posters on those threads who lean to the left. That is a reflection of the political landscape of the UK though, Everybody can join in, but throwaway comments without any substance or evidence are given scant attention because the debate is more important than the view, if that makes sense. That’s why there are a lot of detailed conversations between posters who others may classify as all having the same views, when actually there’s a big spectrum of views amongst them.

Bukkie Tue 20-Oct-26 20:06:58

Kandinsky

*Unfortunately in more recent times it has become very cliquey with a number of Far Left supporters who tend to dominate any discussion on politics and news and seem to spend all their time on there arguing fiercely with people who do not share their views and they can get very aggressive and rude*

I’d agree with that.

Totally agree too. And calling anyone who doesn't agree with the far left and racist.

Fallingstar Tue 20-Oct-26 20:05:51

Thanks for that Petra. I think the same is true of Trip Advisor. When we stayed in a good hotel in Amsterdam a few years ago everyone got a piece of paper left in their room saying that if they gave a good review on TA they could win a free night in the hotel. Am not sure of any review site tbh.

petra Tue 20-Oct-26 20:00:10

MG55

Chat GPT opinion??

Who trusts TrustPilot 🤷‍♀️
This is one of many true experiences explaining why you shouldn’t TrustPilot.

www.linkedin.com/pulse/trustpilot-exposed-how-review-platform-protects-scammers-danny-de-hek-dhajc?trk=keyword-landing-page_feed-article-content

Sago Tue 20-Oct-26 19:54:40

AGAA4

This is one person's view. In fact the only view of Gransnet on Trust pilot.

To say grans on here are left leaning and cliquey on one review is not right.
Trust pilot itself says as Gransnet itself hasn't asked for reviews then this doesn't give a true picture.

So as it’s the only review does this mean it’s not valid?