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Review of the "Five a day" message

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JessM Thu 03-Jan-13 06:17:07

Interesting conclusions here about the value of 5 a day

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20858809

janeainsworth Fri 04-Jan-13 17:26:55

Agreed Ella, and definitely none of those nasty low-fat 'dressings' either, it's got to be the real thing smile

jO5 Fri 04-Jan-13 17:25:52

I like lettuce sandwiches. With salt. Gorgeous. Just don't like salad served with hot meals. hmm

Ella46 Fri 04-Jan-13 17:18:11

Much nicer imho*anno*. with a large dollop of Hellman's mayo! grin
(Don't like slimming)

annodomini Fri 04-Jan-13 17:08:31

One of my favourite snacks is a crisp lettuce sandwich on good wholemeal bread. Apparently this was my mother's special treat when she was expecting me, early in the war when treats were few and far between.

JessM Fri 04-Jan-13 16:42:04

Agreed jo5 the world would not be a poorer place without lettuce.
Isn't it the heat that destroys the vitamin c?

jO5 Fri 04-Jan-13 14:57:43

I hate it in pubs when they serve a portion of salad with nearly everything. You feel duty bound to eat it because you've paid for it.

You even get it with fish and chips. That is ridiculous!

Riverwalk Fri 04-Jan-13 14:46:01

Nanado I bet the spokesman didn't mention that Innocent is majority-owned by Coca-Cola! grin

Nonu Fri 04-Jan-13 14:41:14

I love my 5 a day . We also have a salad every single day . Think we should eat part of our food intake raw . Good for one !!! smile

Nanado Fri 04-Jan-13 00:33:57

A spokesman for Innocent said a 250ml bottle of one of its smoothies contains the same amount of sugar as a large banana grin

flowerfriend Thu 03-Jan-13 13:10:26

Making potatoes into chips actually doesn't destroy the vitamin C content. Boiling the life out of them does. Why don't more people steam vegetables. They take only a little longer to cook and less vitamins are destroyed.

I believe, that along with fruit and vegetables filling one up more satisfactorily than chocolate and biscuits, it's not only the vitamins that benefit us but the trace elements. There's nothing wrong with some chocolate and biscuits and indeed crisps too. Everything in moderation. That goes for my gin and tonic too!

crimson Thu 03-Jan-13 13:05:15

I went through a smoothie phase a few years ago and piled on the weight. Crammed full of fruit, bio yoghurt and honey I thought I was being healthy.Didn't fill me up and ended up with the belly of a sumo wrestler [or tenpintsanight bloke]. Concentrated calories. Good way to use up bananas that are over ripe though. Always plan to eat more veg at this time of year but it doesn't last [eat a lot of salad but that's it really].

JessM Thu 03-Jan-13 12:26:35

I stopped buying smoothies. A full glass contains about 8 teaspoonfuls of sugar. Similar to orange juice and normal cola. I think as well jane that you may be more likely to stimulate insulin production if you eat stuff that has been pre-processed. Sugar gets into blood more quickly, insulin goes up and then you get hungry again faster as a result.
Makes sense to me but of course the body can be counter-intuitive in its ways.
This conversation has prompted me to eat a banana, grin

Riverwalk Thu 03-Jan-13 12:25:42

I love nuts ..... someone told me years ago that there are FIVE calories in each pistachio! Didn't put me off though grin

Bags Thu 03-Jan-13 12:14:39

Are nuts included in the goody-two-shoes' list?

Bags Thu 03-Jan-13 12:12:32

I'm with jings on this. My bowel can't cope with the recommended daily amounts of fruit and veg. I'd have the runs constantly if I got anywhere near it.

Movedalot Thu 03-Jan-13 11:57:56

I love my 5 a day and firmly believe that it stops me eating the bad things. When I get the munchies in the evening I can eat fruit but if I didn't have it would be tempted to go out and buy chocolate. I often feel that restaurants don't give us enough veg.

I also think that it is better to eat food in as near its natural state as possbile and therefore don't each much that has been processed.

All the above is true on 'normal' days but it has flown out the window over Christmas and is still out there now until I get home and finish off the chocs! grin

Riverwalk Thu 03-Jan-13 11:06:41

Continuing with the 'bash the smoothie' theme grin ....

...... many weight-loss programmes say that you can eat as much fruit as you like but juices are restricted. This is because you are unlikely to eat a whole bag of apples or oranges in one go because of the sheer volume and effort required, but you could quite easily glug a large glass of juice which is high in calories.

I'm not very fruity, so it's OK with me!

janeainsworth Thu 03-Jan-13 11:03:10

Ana grin

Ana Thu 03-Jan-13 10:55:53

Oh...sad Still, smoothies presumably fine if you've got a full set of false teeth? grin
(I haven't yet, I hasten to add!)

janeainsworth Thu 03-Jan-13 10:50:06

that should be 'spoil things'

janeainsworth Thu 03-Jan-13 10:48:49

ana and nanado I don't want to things but there is a lot of evidence that smoothies are not good for you.
They contain high levels of fructose (fruit sugar) whichcontributes to dental decay
The reason why smoothies are worse than solid pieces of fruit is that the maceration process releases the fructose from the cells of the solid fruit, so that when you drink a smoothie, it's right there in your mouth, acting on your teeth, whereas if you ate an apple for instance, the fructose wouldn't be released in such large quatities until it was safely in your stomach.
Unfortunately that's not all. If you google 'fructose metabolism' you'll find all sorts of scholarly articles describing ways in which fructose affects weight gain and bloating.
I used to love smoothies when they first came out but after seeing increasing numbers of patients with quite horrific levels of tooth decay at a time of life when you wouldn't expect it, I now restrict myself to one small glass of tropicana with breakfast sad

jO5 Thu 03-Jan-13 10:22:39

I doin't believe five a day is necessary. Never have done. Just another silly spin by these modern day over-youthful politicians. hmm

Nanado Thu 03-Jan-13 09:59:03

So enjoy your smoothies.

Ana Thu 03-Jan-13 09:54:56

Yes, having read the article more carefully you're right, Nanado - he was talking about the benefits of fruit and veg in general diet rather than as a protective measure.

Nanado Thu 03-Jan-13 09:33:58

I think he's only commenting that they don't have an effect on satiety Ana