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I hate waste but....

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mollie65 Thu 10-Jan-13 17:58:05

have noticed fruits like bananas and vegetables like carrots and parsnips are now sporting sell by dates. Ignore those as I have never become ill from eating an overripe banana - but suppose it is the law. Also I have noticed best befores on dog biscuits/mixer etc - as if a dog even tastes what it is eating and anyway they prefer off food judging by what they pick up outside!
as a vegetarian I do not need to worry about meat products
and I never put a date on any homemade pickle/jam/wine - just vaguely remember when I made it judging by whether it was a good harvest that year or not.

Stansgran Thu 10-Jan-13 16:17:16

I think the nose test is best unless like with PD it goes imperceptibly. I've just used up a bottle of solid milk and the remains mincemeat into a yummy scone cake. Sour milk makes the best scones and Im having to keep out of its way. Wait rose does a fresh tartare sauce in a small pot that does for one meal and as good as homemade. I've just opened rhubarb and ginger jam made in2009 and it's lovely. I keep an uncooked chutney in the fridge which is great for cheering up boring old mince.

janthea Thu 10-Jan-13 15:56:52

bags I ignore them. It's my daughters that don't and when they visit they start going through my cupboards and fridge.

nonnasusie Thu 10-Jan-13 15:43:21

I make my own tomato chutney and marmalade and jam!! The chutney tastes much better if left for at least 3 months before eating! There are only 2 of us apart from when family or friends stay and I make preserves in large quantities as it is more economical: It all stays perfectly ok down in the garage where it is cool!

Ana Thu 10-Jan-13 15:34:54

I don't keep jam, marmalade or ketchup in the fridge and nobody's become ill! You do have to scoop a bit of mould off the top of the jam if it's not been used for a while, but that's all..

whenim64 Thu 10-Jan-13 15:31:40

Like others I ignore dates and use my common sense. Dijon mustard is fine for months, jams and pickles last well in the fridge, if there's a sizeable piece of cheese behind the mouldy bit, it gets used. My children seem to think the dates are non-negotiable. They didn't learn that from me. hmm

Bags Thu 10-Jan-13 15:18:35

They aren't a nuisance in our house. We just ignore them. We reckon we can tell whether food is fit to eat or not. What on earth are our senses for? Look, sniff, taste.

BTW, the stats about food wastage are being challenged here

janthea Thu 10-Jan-13 15:08:35

bags That's what I keep telling them - about the pickles. But these darned dates are a nuisance.

Bags Thu 10-Jan-13 15:00:04

Mind you, I expect home-made ones last better than bought ones.

Bags Thu 10-Jan-13 14:59:11

I'm the same, janthea. Pickles only have those use by dates because they have to put one, by law. Pickles keep for years, even after being opened. You don't have to keep them in the fridge either. They were invented before refridgeration as a preservation method.

janthea Thu 10-Jan-13 14:54:47

I regularly cut mould off cheese and scrape it off jam!! I've even cut the crust off bread if it's starting to turn to use for toast.

When either of my daughters come to visit me, they check my fridge and start going through the sauces and pickles in there. There is nothing wrong with them, but they look at the dates on the jars and tell me I have to throw them out. They look at the date on the butter and if it's slightly out of date they say 'out damn'd butter!' I just use it!! I have been known to eat yoghurt that is a week or more out of date. Perfectly OK. Never caused me any problems.

Jodi Thu 10-Jan-13 14:50:52

Left over wine? Must have been a misprint movedalot?

I'm learning a lot about catering just now and we can buy lots of little jars of sauces and the like. But I don't suppose you fancy ordering 144 at a time do you? grin

I used to have this problem. I found that certain garden centres or shopping villages or dellies often sell 4 packs of mini sauces, pickles, mustards, jams, etc. you may have to take pot luck on the other three but why not? hmm

Movedalot Thu 10-Jan-13 14:44:43

I think when you open these things you have a rough idea of whether you will use them in time or not so just freeze the rest in ice cube containers for next use. I have heard this recommended for left over wine to use later in sauces but don't understand the term 'left over wine' grin

Nanado Thu 10-Jan-13 14:43:55

I think we all agree on meats, humus, etc and stuff like that where there's a real danger of contamination. Between the dogs and the chickens very little gets wasted in our house.

But it's the sauces and pickles that are the real waste. I've thrown out 12 jars and bottles, ranging from Sweet Chilli Sauce to Curry Pastes to Wholegrain Mustard with Whisky. I've no idea how long some of them have been lurking in the fridge as I've never dated when they were opened.

At least my fridge looks spotless and there's plenty of room now grin

JessM Thu 10-Jan-13 14:40:26

yes like the nice pin mould on the bacon I threw out yesterday. DH was going to use it up last weekend...

glammanana Thu 10-Jan-13 14:35:02

JessM I'm with you on the vinegar content but I have just this week put some sauces into small yohurt pots for freezing as they would have to be thrown out otherwise and my concience would not let me,once defrosted they will be used within a week.
Mr G. is very fussy about cooked meats etc and will only use the day after opening at the latest whilst I would use the nose test up to three days later but thats his choice I've never had an upset tummy from anything left after use by date though. Common sense tells you when something is not quite right.

kittylester Thu 10-Jan-13 14:33:05

I feel the same about things like horseradish or tartar sauce which we use only every now and again, mostly because I can't remember how long they might have been open BEFORE we last used them. Don't know why I bother to put them in the fridge really, they should go straight in the bin!

With things like pickles etc that we eat often, I take no notice of sell by, use by and only keep for so long dates. Balsamic pickled onions only last a day or two anyway - well there aren't THAT many in a jar blush

JessM Thu 10-Jan-13 14:26:44

Well if something has got a preservative like vinegar in it I ignore those labels completely. Particularly if the jar has been in the fridge. But, really, consume Branston within 6 weeks once opened. Bog off, I say, its a pickle!
Kalamata olives once opened keep below 5 deg and consume within 14 days?
As long as no mould or fermentation in evidence I would not chuck.
Same with jams - they have a lot of sugar in them, which like vinegar and salt, inhibits bacterial growth.
I only take the dates seriously if it is something like hummus that does not contain preservative. I do tend to keep things in the fridge once opened though.
I have dijon mustard in the fridge for years at a time.
I think there is a huge safety margin in these recommendations when the food is preserved.
(You should though be more cautious if you have someone in the house who is on chemo or has a seriously weak immune system.)

Mishap Thu 10-Jan-13 14:17:37

I endorse this plea - threre are just the two of us and OH eats like a gnat. I cannot get through these great big jars of things and finish up chucking stuff out eventually as you have had to do.

Nanado Thu 10-Jan-13 14:13:15

What can I do? Just been having a big clear out and thrown nearly all my jars of sauces, mustards, pickles, etc out. Most three-quarters full. They all read 'once opened use within x number of days'. There's only two of us, how can I use 210g of horseradish sauce in 28 days or 250g of dijon mustard in 6 weeks?
Why can't I buy them in mini pots? Or can I? I've come on GN 'cause if anyone knows GNetters will smile