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Strange recipe?

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Rosiebee Mon 10-Nov-14 11:56:35

RP is a food columnist in Sat Telegraph. Her recipe this weekend was for
milk bread plaits which I was going to follow today. BUT, for 1kg or 2lb 2oz of flour, the quantity of milk she suggests is 650g or 1lb 2oz. I haven't made bread for a few years, but this doesn't sound right. Are there any breadmakers out there who can help out please? I don't want to waste ingredients if it's likely to be a mistake in the recipe.
Thanks hmm

Rosiebee Mon 10-Nov-14 11:57:24

That should have said Rose Prince.

janeainsworth Mon 10-Nov-14 12:21:18

Not a bread maker Rosie but why don't you email Rose Prince?
Most of the Telegraph columnists have an email address at the end of the article.

Ana Mon 10-Nov-14 12:27:00

I'd guess it's meant to be 650ml. Probably just a typo, but best to check if you're still unsure.

shysal Mon 10-Nov-14 12:36:48

The quantity of liquid in bread is always a rough guide only, as different flours have different absorbency. I always guess it anyway, adding enough to make a slightly sticky dough which will become smoother on kneading. If you really want a figure, my recipe for milk bread has 1/2 pint of milk to 1lb flour.
Happy baking!

janeainsworth Mon 10-Nov-14 12:42:52

ana 650ml of milk would weigh approx 650gm.

I've just looked at another bread recipe where the ratio of flour to liquid was 2 cups of water to 6 cups of flour, ie 1:3

So 650gm of milk to 1kg of flour does seem rather high.

Ana Mon 10-Nov-14 12:46:40

I still think it's a misprint for ml.

Ana Mon 10-Nov-14 12:48:07

There's a Jamie Oliver bread recipe online which uses 1kg flour and 625ml tepid water. I'm not sure what the weight of the liquid has to do with it...confused

janeainsworth Mon 10-Nov-14 13:04:41

Ok ana you've asked for it now grin

Weight(grams) is related to volume (millilitres), by density.

Weight (strictly speaking, mass) divided by volume is the density of a substance.

Water has a density of 1. So 1 gram of water occupies 1 millilitre of water.

A millitre of something that is denser than water (like mercury), will weigh more than a gram.

I would guess that milk has a similar density to water, so if a recipe said a weight of milk in grams, you can just measure out mls instead smile

Hope you're still paying attention grin

whenim64 Mon 10-Nov-14 13:06:10

Yes, a misprint but the amount sounds ok - just looked at her recipe. I would add most of the liquid and see if it needs all of it, but it does need to be wet and sticky before it's been kneaded so it'll rise well.

Ana Mon 10-Nov-14 13:11:28

Not really Jane, I faded out around mass and density! grin

But 1 litre weighs 1 kilogram

Therefore 650ml weighs 650g

Ana Mon 10-Nov-14 13:19:44

As of course you said...confused
Sorry - maths not my strong point!

TriciaF Mon 10-Nov-14 14:01:57

Definitely a misprint.
For 1kg flour you will need about 14 fl oz, or 400 ml of warm milk.
But the amount of milk varies with the type of flour - best to add about half first, with any other fluid in the recipe - (eg oil, butter, eggs, yeast mixture) - , then gradually add more until you get the right consistency.

feetlebaum Mon 10-Nov-14 14:22:37

I usually use 400g flour and 300ml liquid in my breadmaker... (that's 50% wholemeal and 50% white flours).

janerowena Mon 10-Nov-14 14:33:34

I would use around 400 ml, maybe 350 ml. I go between imperial and metric when breadmaking, more than in anything else, I have realised. So for 18 ozs of flour I use 300 ml of milk, for 27 ozs of flour I use 450 ml. That's just what works best for me, when I make milk rolls.

janerowena Mon 10-Nov-14 14:33:55

PS it's far cheaper to make up dried milk powder.

absent Mon 10-Nov-14 19:19:27

It's obviously a mistake, not least because 650 g = 1 lb 7 oz, not 1 lb 2 oz.

Ana Mon 10-Nov-14 19:22:17

This is the recipe from the Telegraph.

It seems Rosiebee made a mistake in her OP!

www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/11217284/Rose-Princes-baking-club-milk-bread-plait-recipe.html

rosequartz Mon 10-Nov-14 19:29:16

I followd it, janea but I have never used mercury in a recipe grin

It still seems a large volume of water to dry ingredients.

Ana Mon 10-Nov-14 19:43:19

It isn't really, rosequartz. Jamie Oliver's recipe for milk bread is very similar.

lisaraun Tue 11-Nov-14 06:51:51

Definitely a misprint.

Rosiebee Tue 11-Nov-14 14:44:16

Thanks for all replies. I 'll give it a go.