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Ha! told ya.

(79 Posts)
thatbags Thu 07-Apr-16 18:12:49

Ancel Keys pushing of low fat diet exposed for the bosh it is. At last!

Glad I've been ignoring it for yonks.

NfkDumpling Fri 08-Apr-16 22:27:39

Is this all sugar?

I already half the amount of sugar in fruit cake, banana cake etc (and no one seems to have noticed) as there's plenty in the fruit. I make my own jam and have drastically cut the amount of sugar there too - and increased the flavour. Is fruit sugar ok or just as evil?

Anya Fri 08-Apr-16 22:36:44

Aggie I too prefer Kerrygold as it is from grass fed cows - not those kept indoors and fed reconstituted cubes.

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 08-Apr-16 22:37:36

I think fructose is supposed to be the worst one Nfk.

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 22:38:51

DD wanted to buy some snack foods for DGD - she regularly has apple slices or carrot sticks, but she wondered if the odd biscuit would hurt. So we started looking at the sugar content on all plain biscuits - rich tea, malted milk and so on - and were horrified to find that they are all at least 20 gms of sugar per 100 gms. That's TWENTY PERCENT of the product shock. We even found this to be true of the reduced sugar Farleys Rusks! So she bought some oatcakes (7gms) and breadsticks (trace).
Of course, then she started to worry about the salt content...

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 08-Apr-16 22:39:22

Wouldn't worry about it though. A bit of homemade jam never hurt anyone.

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 23:06:56

I know jings, but the two tiny little teeth that are all she has managed to push through her gums so far are just so perfect, it seems wrong to give her sugar unnecessarily just yet. Plenty of time for that, she's only 9 months old smile

Jalima Fri 08-Apr-16 23:15:58

My one downfall, if you could call it that are nuts
No, they are very good for you, full of good fats and minerals.

Jalima Fri 08-Apr-16 23:20:19

^ Farleys Rusks!^
We went past where the Farley's Rusks factory was the other day - now a Morrison's sad
They were always too sweet anyway - must have been nearly all sugar!

Jalima Fri 08-Apr-16 23:23:00

Indinana
You can buy little biscuity things for babies (Organix I think), rusks and carrot sticks etc. No sugar or salt

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 23:41:32

Oh yes, I think DD has bought them before - I think she was just trying to find a cheaper alternative. They are, after all, only snack foods. She doesn't cut corners with her main meals, but thought she might save a little with these things!
Personally I think she should roll up her sleeves and get her mixer out grin

Indinana Fri 08-Apr-16 23:42:24

Or, more likely, I will wink

NfkDumpling Sat 09-Apr-16 13:36:31

Aargh!! I just Googled Fructose! There was me thinking honey and fresh fruit were good for you - and they're full of poison! shock. Even carrots and parsnips ! Doomed....!

hildajenniJ Sat 09-Apr-16 14:43:10

There's nothing wrong with naturally occurring sugar in fruit and vegetables. It's the white, refined stuff that is poison. A little off topic, but I have been trying, without success, to find unsweetened coffee pods for the dolce gusto machine. We bought a variety pack, and there was one unsweetened latte machiatto pod among them. I much preferred it as I don't take sugar in coffee or tea. If someone can direct me to a supplier of the unsweetened pods I would be very grateful.

Jalima Sat 09-Apr-16 15:22:55

Indinana I used to buy them for the DGD but they weren't keen (no sugar, no salt, no taste hmm)

Jalima Sat 09-Apr-16 15:23:44

Just eat nothing Nfk
You'll be OK then, no sugars, no calories, no worries!!

Maggiemaybe Sat 09-Apr-16 15:57:02

You can order the unsweetened pods directly from the Dolce Gusto website, hildajenniJ, and the prices are in line with what you'd pay at the supermarket. My downfall is the Dolce Gusto Mocha, I'm afraid, but it has to be just an occasional treat.
www.dolce-gusto.co.uk/coffee-pods

NfkDumpling Sat 09-Apr-16 17:23:23

I shall sit and demurely sip my Perrier water Jalima and chew a lettuce leaf!

TriciaF Sun 10-Apr-16 08:58:20

What about breakfast cereals? It's almost impossible to find one now which hasn't got added sugar, or honey, or chocolate coating. And that's what most children seem to have for breakfast.
As for other things, just have smaller helpings, and no seconds or snacking between meals.

Anya Mon 11-Apr-16 07:56:08

Hilda try the pods that are just pure coffee such as the Americano or (my favourite) Barista. Then I add cream!

Trucia when my GC stay over they love a croissant for breakfast.

moxeyns Mon 11-Apr-16 10:00:32

Ancel Keys was a fraud who has cost millions of lives.

I'm diabetic, and have been eating low carb for donkey's years. The doc told me at diagnosis that I'd be on multiple pills then insulin in 5 years' time; that was 15 years ago, and I'm still managing just fine with diet and exercise. And not worrying a jot about fat.

lizzyann Mon 11-Apr-16 10:11:02

Yes I am the same , diabetic for years and have been doing the ketogenic diet for a few months now , that's a high fat low carb diet .

Tricia89 Mon 11-Apr-16 10:12:28

I ignore anything that begins 'research shows...Sooner or later it will show the opposite.

Maggieanne Mon 11-Apr-16 10:19:02

It's a case of using your common sense. Why do you need to buy snacks indinana? Remember when we were young, we didn't walk around all day eating and drinking, we didn't need to, it's just a habit. All this talk about keeping hydrated, just a gimmick, I bet the likes of Perrier are rubbing their hands in glee at our gullibility. Breakfast cereals? Don't buy them, we only had a small selection years ago, we are just used to shoving sugary things in our face now. If you watch any newsreel before the 70's there are very few fat people around, in fact if you look at people that we thought were grossly overweight, like Hattie Jacques you'll be amazed at how slim she looks in comparison to many of the lardies, including young girls, around now.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 11-Apr-16 10:35:04

Indinana I wasn't advocating given a nine month old home made jam! (further down/up the thread. I was replying to Nfk. smile

Lilyflower Mon 11-Apr-16 10:46:02

My DH and I gave up butter for Benecol spread decades ago but when I was pregnant with my second child (who's now 24) the taste of the spread made me very nauseous so I changed temporarily back to butter. Reader, I never went back.

So now, the news that fat is not bad for you and never was, is extremely satisfactory. Not only that, but the mistaken science which claimed fat was dangerous, along with all the flip-flopping nonsense we have been sold about alcohol, coffee, carbs and other foodstuffs reminds me to take 'expert' advice with a shovelful of salt. Everything in moderation is my watchword - and I am looking forward to the day when sugar (in moderate amounts) is likewise exonerated.