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Freakshakes - Action on Sugar calling for a ban.

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Bathsheba Tue 13-Nov-18 11:55:03

And I'm not surprised! I'd never heard of them, and was shocked to hear that the survey carried out by Action on Sugar placed the "Unicorn Freakshake" by Toby Carvery top of the list at 1280 calories, containing thirty-nine teaspoons of sugar ?. This particular shake is obviously marketed at children, given the current craze among little girls for unicorns, and that amount of sugar is over 6 times the recommended daily intake for 7-10 year olds.
To say I'm shocked is a slight understatement.

Jalima1108 Thu 15-Nov-18 20:45:05

chocolate yes, but in any other form like cake, no.
Very strange.

sodapop Thu 15-Nov-18 20:42:49

Not like chocolate, I don't belieeeeeeeve it Jalima smile

Jalima1108 Thu 15-Nov-18 20:06:55

No, it wasn't.
Pandering to DH who doesn't like it sodapop
Strange.

M0nica Thu 15-Nov-18 19:48:09

Kisthecat, thank you for your apology. I do not think this product is aimed at children, it is far too big, more likely aimed at young adults and I doubt they sell many, just the occasional one to someone showing off.

The picture of it probably just looks good on the menu and in advertising.

Kisathecat Thu 15-Nov-18 19:06:50

MOnica sorry if I was rude. It is my opinion based on my own research, experience and beliefs. I agree that sugar in small amounts isn’t really a problem but we are all different and have different tolerance levels. Sugar is addictive. And when a person tips a balance sugar cravings are very intense, and in consideration of all the hidden sugars in food even a person who avoids it could end up consuming quite s lot.
This freakshake is the type of thing that could tip that balance in a child. Thankfully it appears from the comments that lot of people just can’t stomach it.
It’s a bit like alcohol, if you overindulge you will start to crave it and doing this just once can put you on a potentially self-destructive path.
I’m horrified by it anyway. I have a child who is most certainly affected by sugars, additives, too much meat even so while he has treats I would never give him something like this, what’s the point?
So it wasn’t directed at you, I read a lot of comments and was just surprised at how blasé some people are. Food has changed a lot in the last 20/30 years, not in a good way.

sodapop Thu 15-Nov-18 15:44:01

If its a chocolate cake Jalima save me a slice please smile

Jalima1108 Thu 15-Nov-18 15:07:01

Just off to eat some birthday cake smile

Jalima1108 Thu 15-Nov-18 15:05:10

I would rather a little sugar than the aspartame stuff or other artificial sweeteners was targeted at humans.

Everything in moderation - except for aspartame which should be banned imo.
The milkshake described in the OP does not sound like moderation.

M0nica Thu 15-Nov-18 15:01:18

Kisthecat what is your evidence that this research was commissioned by the sugar industry. To assume it was funded by the sugar industry is not an adequate response to evidence that conflicts by your firmly held beliefs.

To not be horrified that something so unhealthy is being targeted at humans, whatever their age betrays a passivity that I can only put down to s lifetime of fluoride consumption.
Another wopping assumption, this time about me without any evidence to back it up.

No food is unhealthy, not even sugar, a small amount of sugar in a well-balanced and varied diet does no harm at all. An excessive consumption of sugar, is of course very harmful and while President Trump might argue that point, I doubt if any one else would.

So I repeat sugar consumption does not cause children to be hyper active. Excessive sugar consumption will cause all kinds of other health problems, but not instant hyper activity after consuming it.

Kisathecat Thu 15-Nov-18 13:52:20

Sugar actually does cause hyperactivity. The “study” that “proved” it doesn’t was probably commissioned by the sugar industry. To not be horrified that something so unhealthy is being targeted at humans, whatever their age betrays a passivity that I can only put down to s lifetime of fluoride consumption.

PamelaJ1 Wed 14-Nov-18 17:01:59

KatyK we had a fat girl at my junior school.
We weren’t mean to her , we didn’t bully her but I do remember her.

Jalima1108 Wed 14-Nov-18 16:46:25

I am struggling to recall any overweight children in our area or my school when I was a child.
I don't think there are any obese children in the DGC's school.

However, I did see a tot the other day who must have been about 4 and was as wide as she was tall, a lovely little girl, but I thought it was sad that her mother had let her get like that.

Saggi Wed 14-Nov-18 15:39:19

You MOnica have got it just right. No squash in our house and 1 tin beans between us three younger children for lunch AND we washed up afterwards. NEVER did we 'snack' between meals. I have the dubious honour of doing my 11 year old grandsons packed lunch every school day and I cannot believe what goes into it. Round of sandwiches ( good).2 cartons of drink...banana( good), Apple(good), crisps and chocolate biscuit ( not so good). It all seems an incredible amount of food!? I remember school packed lunches which were round of sandwiches or 1 roll. 1 piece of fruit. No crisps or chocolate bars, and definitely NO carton of drink. My mum or gran always said "the school has a water fountain use that". And we were skinny and incredibly healthy bunch of kids. Too much and too soon these days!

KatyK Wed 14-Nov-18 14:51:16

I am struggling to recall any overweight children in our area or my school when I was a child.

M0nica Wed 14-Nov-18 14:43:31

In the past we just ate less all round. Smaller portions of food, not eating between meals.

My parents were not impoverished in any way but, for example, if we had beans on toast for breakfast one standard sized tin of beans was considered as sufficient for four portions. Tinned fruit for pudding was, again, a standard tin divided by 4. Sweets were limited. My pocket money would not stretch to more than one bar of chocolate a week.

We didn't have biscuits or crisps or anything else between meals, there was no squash in the house and we drank water. This was the normal eating pattern in our household and not that different in any other one I visited.

The problem isn't sugar, or fat, or meat or any other single food stuff. The problem is that nowadays, all our food portions are too big. If DH and I have beans on toast, it is a standard tin between two, the same on the rare occasions we have tinned fruit. We spread the butter more generously than when we were children, have butter on potatoes. All these things add up and to children these large portins are the norm.

KatyK Wed 14-Nov-18 14:25:24

Some of the chocolate birthday cakes now are unbelievable. They have Mats bars, flakes, Dime bars, Rolos, Maltesers and more piled up on them.

NanaandGrampy Wed 14-Nov-18 13:49:49

I agree Sweetie .

I too read the article and could understand how bad ones day would be. But are we seriously suggesting a child would be eating one a day? I’ve seen these and in fact I shared one with my daughter and 2 grandchildren. No one ate loads , I think at least half was left at the end and it was a one off thing.

Have we lost the ability to be sensible or isthis just another step towards a nanny state ?

Jalima1108 Wed 14-Nov-18 13:44:09

And no child ever enjoyed standing in the corner with her hands behind her back, so the mere thought was usually conducive of good behaviour,
Even worse if you had to stand in the corner with your hands on your head for a double lesson!

grandtanteJE65 Wed 14-Nov-18 12:42:35

Perhaps I am being unduly cynical, but it is easier to blame sugar for making children hyperactive than to enforce discipline in other ways.

Children become what was called "wild" when we were small either because they are over-tired or because no grown-up stopped them at the first sign of wildness.

"Stop that!" and "No" were commonly heard when I was a child, and usually we obeyed, because we knew we would be told to go and stand in the corner if we didn't.

And no child ever enjoyed standing in the corner with her hands behind her back, so the mere thought was usually conducive of good behaviour,

sodapop Wed 14-Nov-18 12:26:52

Nanny state again. Of course the so called 'freakshakes' are unhealthy but so are many other things in life. We are entitled to make our own decisions even if others think those decisions are wrong. There will soon be a diet prescribed by the State.

Esspee Wed 14-Nov-18 12:10:05

Hear hear Blinko

gillyknits Wed 14-Nov-18 11:08:41

Sometimes ‘forbidden’ stuff makes it the most sought after! I remember accompanying a child on a school trip. He had been brought up with no sugary treats. When we got to the gift shop, he headed for the sweets and spent all his money on them and proceeded to eat every last one ! He was a bit green by the time we got him home.

Blinko Wed 14-Nov-18 10:53:05

Oops, went off piste a bit there...

mabon1 Wed 14-Nov-18 10:53:04

Everything in moderation

Blinko Wed 14-Nov-18 10:52:05

...nobody was hyper, very few behavioural issues in school

I wonder if there is too much 'labelling' nowadays, with almost everyone, it seems, having some sort of behavioural issue, be it ASD, being 'on the (autism) spectrum', and Heaven knows how many other this or that ...isms.

And I do wonder if this tendency to label every minute digression from the perceived 'norm' as something that sets people apart for special treatment is adding to the schisms we see in society today.

It seems to me that almost nearly everyone was considered mainstream at one time with few exceptions to the norm and these tended to be the extreme cases.

Sometimes you can attach too much importance to people's foibles and differences.