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Scone it’s official

(165 Posts)
Galen Tue 20-Nov-18 15:34:01

It’s official, I’ve just heard it on radio 4.
It’s scone, to rhyme with moan and
Its jam first!

Daddima Thu 22-Nov-18 16:03:35

In ‘ rough’, gh = ‘f’.
In ‘ women’, o = ‘i’
In ‘station’, ti= ‘sh’

So, ‘ ghoti’ is ‘ fish’.

anniegold195 Thu 22-Nov-18 14:32:52

You are so right.

anniegold195 Thu 22-Nov-18 14:28:19

My sister in law lives nr Scoon CAstle in Perth. Its spelt "scone". I call a scone as the sound of drone.
Work that one out...

Witzend Thu 22-Nov-18 13:44:45

To me it rhymes with drone, but I don't care what anyone else calls them - they can call them scoons if they like. Heathen that I am, I don't really like them - except for really cheesy cheese scones with proper butter - I've never liked cream.

Margs Thu 22-Nov-18 11:50:21

OK - so is it Bath Oliver or Baaarth Oliver?

Elegran Thu 22-Nov-18 10:49:51

So many people believe that an e at the end always makes it as long vowel, but it depends where the word came from originally. If, as the pundits say, scone comes from either Gaelic or Dutch, then Gaelic or Dutch rules apply.

Even for basic English words, there are exceptions to all rules. Think of "I before E, except after C, so long as you pronounce it ee."

Just imagine if your grandchild had a Gaelic name like Naoise or Siobhán. what would you shout across a crowded playground to them?

Bellanonna Thu 22-Nov-18 09:40:51

Just seen this thread. Everyone I know says scon, so I thought that was correct, despite my calling it scone. I must have got my version from my Irish mother where I assume scone, like stone, is the norm. As for what order you put things on your scon, I don’t really think about it, I just enjoy it, but I mainly eat the cheese version with butter.

grumppa Thu 22-Nov-18 09:35:49

If the o becomes long when there's an e at the end, then someone has "goan" away. The English side of my family have always said scon (lower middle class NE London/Essex); the Cambrian side just say welshcakes!

Greyduster Thu 22-Nov-18 09:08:28

Iam??!

gillybob Thu 22-Nov-18 09:04:43

Blimey I’m really confused then Iam confused

I thought the “scowne” was posh (and the short “scon” was as common as muck ) . grin

BlueBelle Thu 22-Nov-18 08:35:24

Mary Berry would pronounce it scon she’s posh

It wouldn’t have an e if it was scon the e changes the pronunciation to a long o scOne ‘ o’ sounds like Oh

BlueBelle Thu 22-Nov-18 08:29:24

Surely a ‘o’ becomes long when it has an e on the end so It has to be Scone to sound like stone for me
I always was led to believe that it was a class thing and ‘posh’ people said scon
I don’t have cream but butter first then jam but if I was to have cream it would be jam then cream you wouldn’t put cream under fruit/jam on a cake etc

Iam64 Thu 22-Nov-18 08:23:03

Not this side of the pennines gillybob, at least not in our poverty stricken, former mill town areas. It's scone to rhyme with moan.
Mind, we'd never be able to afford cream so it would be butter then jam.
It may be even worse in Yorkshire, where butter and jam would be LUXURY.

gillybob Thu 22-Nov-18 07:50:20

Other way round I would say trendygran. Us common Northerners definitely say “scon” (to rhyme with gone)

sluttygran Wed 21-Nov-18 23:38:15

Scone as in loan. Or as my dear friend from Glasgow says: “ They wee cakey things”.
Forget the jam, I’ll have extra cream.
Call ‘em what you like and eat them warm from the oven.

trendygran Wed 21-Nov-18 23:18:38

Is it a North /South division-or just that posh people say scone ( to rhyme with gone) ,?? What do other gransnetters think ?

trendygran Wed 21-Nov-18 23:14:58

Always jam first on my scone ( to rhyme with moan). .

Floriatosca Wed 21-Nov-18 22:50:29

The word scone is very correctly rhymed with gone.

I have been lucky enough to hear this correct pronunciation from two of the very best sources:

I have been invited to attend a summer Garden a party at Buckingham Palace on two memorable occasions.

Just before enjoying Afternoon Tea the assembled party were reminded that her Majesty refers to the said edible delicacy as a scon and to pronounce it otherwise is wrong.

Secondly, the Queen of Baking Mary Berry very clearly pronounces the word as scon.

If these two venerable Ladies pronounce it this way - that is good enough for me.

gillybob Wed 21-Nov-18 22:10:00

There really is no “w” in scone or am
I missing sowmething?

One owns the scowne ? Nah grin

Bookreader2403 Wed 21-Nov-18 21:05:23

Nope I’m definitely in the Scone to rhyme with moan camp smile

Nonnatimesfour Wed 21-Nov-18 19:54:47

I agree with Bathsheba, Scone like Cone and definitely clotted cream spread on first instead of butter, then jam. A true cream tea does not have butter so the cream takes the place of the butter and the scone is best broken in half rather than cut.

Chewbacca Wed 21-Nov-18 19:37:23

Scone, to rhyme with John. Unless you are, or want to be, very U.

Elegran Wed 21-Nov-18 19:30:35

And would gone be spelt gon?

valeriej43 Wed 21-Nov-18 19:28:57

Scone to rhyme with bone where i come from,if it was scone to ryhme with gone it would be spelt scon grin

varian Wed 21-Nov-18 18:39:15

Scone, the place with a palace is pronounced "scoon"

Scone, for eating with a cup of tea is pronounced to rhyme with gone.

Anyont who pronounces scone to rhyme with moan runs the risk of being mistaken for Hyacinth Bucket.