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What do you think ‘slut’ meant?

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Mollygo Wed 25-Aug-21 07:17:18

Nigella Lawson has evidently renamed her dessert with ‘slut’ in the title, because she says the word has taken on a coarser meaning.
I always thought it meant a woman of questionable morals, but she relates it to slattern which I thought meant untidy or messy. Weird names for any food anyway.

MissElly Thu 26-Aug-21 15:06:06

Regardless of all the above, I have made that dessert on many occasions and it is absolutely delicious, on the off chance that anyone is interested smile

nanna8 Thu 26-Aug-21 14:55:33

I don’t watch her, she seems so affected to me. She kind of exudes unhappiness, not sure why.

GoldenAge Thu 26-Aug-21 14:52:18

Here is a woman of some notoriety who has a platform where she can increase her own visibility at the expense of other women - why introduce the word 'slut' but to inject some sexual flavour into her presentation and at the same time to remind the general public that women can be called this for acts/behaviour that when associated with men receive no such pejorative language - why do we watch this woman - I'm not jealous by the way

nanna8 Thu 26-Aug-21 14:36:00

Slut was like moll, tart etc - someone who wasn’t fussy who she had sex with. In a male it was regarded as completely different, something to envy if anything, a bit of a lad or a wombat ( eats, roots, and leaves). Sexism at its finest.

nexus63 Thu 26-Aug-21 14:21:35

a slut when i was young meant someone who put out for loads of guys.

Gabrielle56 Thu 26-Aug-21 14:19:09

I called my mum a "silly hewer" (whore in Derbyshire speak!) Not having a clue what it meant, at 13 ! thankfully-neither did she! (Scots country upbringing)! But to me slut to means someone who puts out for anyone and everyone.

Mollygo Thu 26-Aug-21 13:53:30

JaneJudge

I only knew it to mean someone who had had a lot of action with a variety of others in the groin area

???

JaneJudge Thu 26-Aug-21 13:42:02

I only knew it to mean someone who had had a lot of action with a variety of others in the groin area

grandtanteJE65 Thu 26-Aug-21 13:40:21

Yes, Galaxy there is, in Scots she is a cheeky besom, not only for making derogatory comments on othe women but for sticking her nose in where it isn't wanted generally speaking.

Irismarle Thu 26-Aug-21 13:19:49

Thanks Trisher for remembering the late great Katherine Whitehorn, RIP.
I have also always loved her Sluts’ tip for cleaning the bathroom : make sure the taps are really shiny and the rest will look fine!

MayBee70 Thu 26-Aug-21 12:57:00

trisher

I thought Katherine Whitehorn redefined slut in the 60s when she wrote her wonderful piece about women coping with life, taking clothes out the laundry basket because they had nothing clean etc.
It's here if you want to read it. Almost 60 years since it was written!
uploads.guim.co.uk/2018/10/10/Whitehorn_sluts.jpg

Thanks for that. I still find some of her articles that I’ve cut out and put into books or diaries. I loved her.

Trish9495 Thu 26-Aug-21 12:29:04

Slut:
Used to give offence….Tart…Tramp etc.
Derogatory use..…Low standards of self care and cleanliness.

win Thu 26-Aug-21 12:26:53

ENTERTAINING TO READ LOL

Candelle Thu 26-Aug-21 12:25:36

Thanks for the Katherine Whitehorn piece. Loved her articles.

olliebeak Thu 26-Aug-21 12:25:10

BlueBelle

Slut is untidy a bit mucky
Slag is a woman who is sexually putting it around in my dictionary
Nigella Lawson just likes to shock so it doesn’t surprise me at all I don’t follow her so I wouldn’t bother using her made up names for puds

I do find Nigella to be a bit of a 'slattern' around the kitchen! She is constantly messing with her hair to put it back behind her ears.

There's also some degree of 'come hither' about her, as if she's already planning her own idea of 'dessert' cupcake. I bet she also 'plays footsie' under the table when nobody can see what she's up to wink

Anybody who wants to be taken seriously as a cook/chef needs to be hygienic in their 'kitchen practises.

She also has a habit of wearing her 'sitting-down-to-dine' clothes while prepping and cooking her meal. No need for that - overall or a pinny, PLEASE!

In some ways she reminds me of Alex Polizzi - who dresses 'sexy' while shouting at Hotel Owners. Talk about Miss Whiplash' wink.

Kim19 Thu 26-Aug-21 12:07:44

Never ever thought of it in a sexual context. Usually referred to a woman who was lax in personal hygiene and homecare.

Bigirl57 Thu 26-Aug-21 12:02:16

Nigella is a real tease in every sense of the word trust her to come up with this, I love her she has turned my husband into a good cook. He has all her books and always watches her on TV.
All the family say my husbands cooking is delicious. Suits me I never cook now. All thanks to Negella.

Granmarderby10 Thu 26-Aug-21 11:28:51

Galaxy ? yes two words actually Publicity Seeker

Nigella is notorious for her imaginative descriptions of food, I find her Tv programmes very contrived and she has become a characature of herself.
The written recipes are sound enough though.

Aepgirl Thu 26-Aug-21 11:27:25

Being called a slut has always been a real insult to any woman. Why Nigella would use it to describe a dessert is beyond me. Why not just use ‘decadent’?

trisher Thu 26-Aug-21 11:25:02

Thanks Interested and Saxifrage I was so pleased to find it on-line. I remembered bits of it but I'd forgotten how really funny it was. KW was so talented.

Jules10 Thu 26-Aug-21 11:22:15

I was taught a slut is a dirty untidy woman, these days it means a woman of questionable morals, I was also taught a lush was a drunk, now means lovely, great, confusing for anyone trying to learn the English language ??

Saxifrage Thu 26-Aug-21 11:18:05

Trisher, thank you so much for finding that Katherine Whitehorn article. I thought it was hilarious at the time and kept it for some years. It’s still very funny and I can certainly own up to a number of the sins. I particularly liked the idea that there is no point in getting a wig. “If you can't keep your own hair tidy you will never manage to keep your toy hair tidy”.

Interested Thu 26-Aug-21 11:09:21

Trisher, thank you! That article made my morning!!

Rosina Thu 26-Aug-21 11:09:18

I always understood slut to mean a person who didn't bother much with housework or personal appearance; I commented to my DiL once that if you don't bother with cleaning you have to develop a slut mentality in order to ignore the chaos and dirt around you; she looked horrified and felt it was insulting. It does seem that some people regard the word as referring to morals, and not the state of your kitchen floor!

greenlady102 Thu 26-Aug-21 11:08:05

originally sluts were the same as slatterns...ie untidy women who were poor housekeepers

179. Farewell, Rewards and Fairies

Richard Corbet (1582–1635)


FAREWELL, rewards and fairies,
Good housewives now may say,
For now foul sluts in dairies
Do fare as well as they.
And though they sweep their hearths no less
Than maids were wont to do,
Yet who of late for cleanness
Finds sixpence in her shoe?

Lament, lament, old Abbeys,
The Fairies’ lost command!
They did but change Priests’ babies,
But some have changed your land.
And all your children, sprung from thence,
Are now grown Puritans,
Who live as Changelings ever since
For love of your demains.

At morning and at evening both
You merry were and glad,
So little care of sleep or sloth
These pretty ladies had;
When Tom came home from labour,
Or Cis to milking rose,
Then merrily went their tabor,
And nimbly went their toes.

Witness those rings and roundelays
Of theirs, which yet remain,
Were footed in Queen Mary’s days
On many a grassy plain;
But since of late, Elizabeth,
And later, James came in,
They never danced on any heath
As when the time hath been.

By which we note the Fairies
Were of the old Profession.
Their songs were ‘Ave Mary’s’,
Their dances were Procession.
But now, alas, they all are dead;
Or gone beyond the seas;
Or farther for Religion fled;
Or else they take their ease.

A tell-tale in their company
They never could endure!
And whoso kept not secretly
Their mirth, was punished, sure;
It was a just and Christian deed
To pinch such black and blue.
Oh how the commonwealth doth want
Such Justices as you!