Recipe for Vegan curry

But they are different versions of products that already exist under the same name. Magnums, KitKats, Galaxys etc and have been specifically formulated to be different from the original so that vegans can eat it. I have absolutely no problems with that.

I keep saying that my irritation is strictly limited to the situation where existing recipes suddenly have vegan added to their title. I have absolutely no problem with recipes/dishes that have been specially formulated for vegans being called vegan, anymore than when specially formulated bread products are called Gluten free bread.

My objection is when a recipe or dish that has been around for ages and is exactly the same no matter who eats it, suddenly has Vegan added to its name because vegans eat it. One day a product is vegetable curry, the next day it is Vegan curry, even though it is the same recipe with the same ingredients. Why not call it omnivore curry, it would be much more accurate?

Too many people are reading into my OP things I did not say and do not espouse, from hating vegans to objecting to food products specially formulated for vegans having the word attacched to them.

I have made it so clear so often that that my irritation is limited to this one very narrow concept - describing a perfectly ordinary vegetable curry as a vegan curry, when people have been making and eating vegetable curries for hundreds of years befor this term and its exact meaning was even thought of.

I wonder what the OP thinks of Vegan Magnums, Vegan Kitkats, Vegan Galaxy, Vegan Cornettos ( all available in the shops) - I expect it was those pesky vegans taking over food production and slapping their name on it - no, it’s the food manufacturers trying to get a lucrative share of the market of people who want to cut down on animal products.

How could anyone read this thread, I could never condone cannibalism against anyone, let alone vegans,

I put desert apple in my vegan curry, and so it needs no sugar.

M&S have vegan choc chip cookies, probably other ones too.

We're not vegan but DH bought some when we had visitors. They ate one each and we polished off the rest (only one a day each).
Perhaps two as they're very nice.

I think the food producers have identified a market for quick, easy 'meat replacement' items, useful for families where somebody is vegan and others are not. I don't buy these things, having a selection of pre-cooked stuff in the freezer and a few memorised simple recipes.

I found the vegan label very useful for choosing things that a granddaughter with milk protein allergy could have. For instance, biscuits - so many have dried milk in them (as it's a cheap filler) but I knew that fruit shortcakes, Fox's dark chocolate chunky cookies and Hobnobs were ok.

Probably, vegansrock but every time the advert comes on we say 'Rubbish! No such thing, that's a contradiction in terms'.

I wouldn't be tempted to buy any, I'd rather use chick peas or lentils to make a curry or dahl.

I think it’s a ploy by food manufacturers looking for new markets and to make a tidy profit callistemon.

I stopped eating meat because I didn’t like the idea of eating dead animals so anything resembling flesh is off putting, plus I don’t like too much processed food
I understand that and respect your decision, vegansrock.

What I don't understand is people who want to become vegan but still want their food to look like meat, sound like meat and taste like meat.
Those products I describe sound very processed to me, more so than anything I eat.

callistemon Not all vegans want to eat food that looks/ tastes like meat . I don’t for one. Fake meat is really being made by food companies aimed at meat eaters who want to cut down on meat and those who can’t believe a meal is complete without a meat substitute. I stopped eating meat because I didn’t like the idea of eating dead animals so anything resembling flesh is off putting, plus I don’t like too much processed food.
MOnica your belief that vegans are conspiring to colonise recipes and going round “stamping their name on it” is hostile and based on no evidence. Names on recipes are created by food writer and cooks to describe their dishes, very few of them are vegans.

I didn't say anything against vegans I just complained about the way they seem to have colonised any recipe that happens not to contain animal products by stamping their name on it.

I hate the way DH never closes a drawer or cupboard door, it really p****s me off, but it doesn't mean I hate him, just those specific actions. Exactly the same applies to Vegans. I fully respect their food choices and reasons for making them, but I wish they wouldn't take over and claim to themselves food that everybody else eats and has often done so for hundreds of years.

All they do is live on a plant based diet, which does not affect anyone else.

That is not why I don't understand why vegans want to eat food that looks, sounds and tastes like meat.

It is very strange how much antagonism is directed towards vegans.

All they do is live on a plant based diet, which does not affect anyone else.

It would be more understandable if all the world were vegan and suddenly some people started to eat dead animals.

Is this anti-vegan thing part of what's called "culture wars"?

vegansrock I do find The Vegan Butcher, as advertised on TV, distinctly weird.

Pastrami? Bacun? Dirty Burger? Black Puddin? Turk'y? Salami?

Why - just why?

Anyone can eat a vegan dish, but vegans can’t eat many dishes.

Therefore it is necessary to point out a dish that is fine for vegans.

It is that simple. Relax, Live and let live I say.

But MOnica you have stated you resent vegans-
I just get fed up with the way they have taken over all plant based dishes and slapped their name on them as if they invented them and owned them and the dishes were only suitable for them
this statement from your post does imply that vegans are going around appropriating vegetable dishes and renaming them and excluding anyone else from eating them - this is simply wrong, it’s just that there is more awareness of plant based eating and having a vegan label is helpful to many, it tells us what it does not contain - you obviously think a dish should be named with every single ingredient in it. You think there is some sort of conspiracy and that labelling something “vegan” means only vegans can eat it - it really doesn’t, any more than the label “vegetarian” means only vegetarians can eat it - the vegan police aren’t going to stop anyone who wants to cooking or eating a vegan curry. The word “vegan” doesn’t just mean a person it can also describe a dish or recipe. You are overthinking this.

How many times do I have to say I am not anti-vegan. Where have I said anything against vegans or shown any hostility to anyone who is vegan?

I just find it irritating when the word Vegan is slapped on every recipe, whether it is a recent concoction, or has been around for centuries, just because it is animal product free.

In this case the word has been used instead of a proper descriptor of the dish. A 'vegan curry', which is what this dish is called could be a vegetable curry, but it could be a non-dairy cheese based curry that is like paneer. It could be a dhall, a biryani, a chicken replacement curry. It could be a host of different things, so unless you look at the list of ingredients you have no idea what it contains.

This recipe is simply a recipe for vegetable curry. What more does it have to add? I have been making vegetable curries with out any meat based products for over 50 years, without it ever occuring to me that this was a special vegan dish.

The usual procedure if a dish or recipe is suitable - or not suitable - for a group of people who for medical reasons or reasons of principle, avoid certain foods is to have a sentence at the beginning of the recipe, or on the package if it is a ready meal saying 'Suitable for vegans/those with nut allergies/or whatever.

But Vegan curry, apart from being a misnomer as anyone can eat it, gives absolutely no indication what the product contains, because it could well not be a vegetable curry.

Although some vegetarians do get a bit fed up being lumped in with vegans these days when they wouldn't mind a bit of cheese or cream

DD2 went to a University formal dinner the other week and had ordered the vegetarian option but the venue did a combined vegetarian and vegan option. The others on her table ate steak - she got a single grilled mushroom (on the menu called a Portabello steak but they found a very small one). She didn't feel she got her money's worth

I think that it is very handy for people to know what is in a dish

For example my "vegetable korma" is vegetarian but not vegan because it contains butter/ghee and cream. I can make it vegan by using Flora and coconut cream

It’s very handy for me as more than half of my family is Vegetarian, anything marked as Vegan will do nicely.

I once went into a bakers and asked the Assistant if the Mince pies were vegetarian, she seemed a bit surprised by my question but after a long pause said to me that there isn’t any meat in Mince Pies! I didn’t bother to educate her about the suet as there was a queue…..

It’s sounds like the OP is very anti vegan as she assumes there are militant vegans going around slapping the word vegan onto every plant based recipe and not allowing anyone else to eat it. Many people find it helpful to be told something is vegan and not just vegans- those with dairy allergies for example. You don’t necessarily have to have the whole list of ingredients in a recipe title.

nightowl, it's just the word 'vegan' that creates a guilty conflict in some:

I too have family members with allergies Monica and seeing products labelled vegan is very helpful. Yes we still have to search for the soya and other ingredients but at least we know a whole group of ingredients is ruled out right there and then. I really don’t understand why this provokes such hostility. It’s a simple adjective.

'Vegan vegetable' seems funny to me - as what else could it be, apart from cereal? It's much easier to find a recipe, or online shop, when you can just search for 'vegan'.

The word sparks anger in some, though, as they see it as odd, whereas vegans see any other way of eating as odd.

No, I am not anti-vegan, I just resent Vegan being slapped on the name of every recipe that happens to be animal product free.

The recipe that irritated me is a perfectly ordinary recipe for a vegetable curry, why change its name? 'Vegan Curry' gives no indication what the ingredients are. They could be soya in its many forms, vegetable protein, fruit, nuts.

I have family members with severe allergies. I have yet to see a whole range of ordinary everyday recipes include Soya-free or Nut-free in the name of the recipe. Buying a ready meal, it may include information on the packet saying it is soya or nut free. But this recipe could equally have Been called Soya-free Curry or Nut-free Curry or animal protein free curry but it isn't,

If you want to make it absolutely clear it is suitable for Vegans, why not call it Vegan Vegetable Curry, or, as with allergies, Vegetable Curry, suitable for Vegans.