Recipe for Vegan curry

I did learn from my travel in India that around 50% of Indians are vegetarian, certainly they do eat a lot of Beans, Chick Peas and Lupins for protein.
Seems the ancient eating habits persist

Esspee

There is clear evidence of hominids eating meat 2.6 million years ago Chardy. We don't know about before that but mankind has probably been omnivorous for very much longer.

I didn't mention meat-eaters. A previous poster had alluded to veganism and vegetarianism being modern phenomena, and pre-dating curries.
To be clear the time line looks like:
Vegetarianism can be traced toIndus Valley Civilizationin 3300–1300BCE
Curries - archaeological evidence dating to 2600 BCE
One of the earliest documented vegans pre-dates Norman Conquest

How many carnivores are that inflexible? The number of human carnivores must be countable in single numbers. the vast majority of people are omnivores.

Describing a dish as vegan warns carnivores that there are no animal products in the dish and so if they are insistent on animal products they can avoid it.

I think it is fine. to describe it as vegan, so that a anyone would know it didn’t contain animal products, without looking all through the recipe.It would be particularly useful for someone who in not a vegan cooking for a vegan, as they may be unsure what a vegan couldn’t eat.

There is clear evidence of hominids eating meat 2.6 million years ago Chardy. We don't know about before that but mankind has probably been omnivorous for very much longer.

Vegetarianism is 4000 years old? Really? ???

existed for centuries before veganism became a movement
Apparently veganism has been around for a thousand years. You learn something new...
Vegetarianism 4000 years old

Vegan is a great description. It warns non-vegan that there might be things in the dish that they cannot tolerate.

To describe the use of the word vegan to describe a dish is helpful. It gives more information than the description meat free or vegetarian because it indicates no dairy. no eggs. no products derived from animals.

To call this "cultural appropriation" is patently absurd.

I’m pretty critical of the original recipes, they are too complex and very few are going to use them. We usually have a curry mid week using leftovers, whatever is left over goes in, practically all of the flavor come from the spices, salt and sugar you use wether there is meat or just vegetables.
It takes practice to get the taste you like, tip, cook the base curry add the rest in small quantities taste it often, if you want lower calories use ground cauliflower instead of rice, very similar texture

Maybe the original vegetarian curry had some none vegan items in it?
So they altered the recipe.

I’m surprised at the amount of sugar though, usually it’s an abundance of salt in Processed food.

Seems an odd thing to get wound up about though.

MOnica How do you know it’s vegans doing this? Evidence?
“Cultural appropriation” ??!!! since when was vegetable curry only allowed in one culture? Vegetable curry can be a myriad of recipes. And is vegan curry from a different culture? You are definitely loosing out on this argument. You are irritated by some recipes changing the title. No one else is. Others find it helpful. End of.

Varian I do wish you would read what I write before jumping to conclusions. My OP is only, note only about the word vegan be attached to recipes that are perfectly ordinary recipes eaten by everyone and have existed for centuries before veganism became a movement. In this case an ordinary vegtable curry being described as a vegan curry.

Since then you (and others) have decided that this means that I hate vegans, I don't, object to the word vegan being attached to food substitutes developed especially for vegans, again I do not and now you have decided that I have described veganism as virue signalling. I haven't, I used that phrase to describe another poster going all holier than thou and muttering the incantation of all virtue signallers 'first world problems'. Well, so what, I am sure even those in 25th worlds, or what the lowest (highest?) worlds are as well as truly terrible problems, also have some little trivial problems, that really irritate.

Finallly you have started waffling on about the motivations of vegans, again a subject I haven't touched.

Let me repeat (yet again) my complaint was about the word vegan being attached to animal product free dishes that people with all sorts of eating regimes have been enjoying for aeons. It is a form of cultural appropriation.

There is nothing "virtue signalling" about being vegan.

It is true that vegans do less harm to the planet than omnivores but that is not usually the only reason for their decision to follow a plant based diet.

Whatever the motivation of vegans, it is nothing to do with deliberately irritating anyone.

Hetty58

Katie59, That's a nuisance, does she have her own little table outside? The vegans here are quite happy watching others chomp away on meat, dairy, honey etc. I just have to be very careful to cater for everyone and watch out for hidden egg, milk or butter in the strangest things - and buy the right wine!

She’s my brothers problem not mine and has hang up about hang ups, at least the kids are healthy, their father makes sure of that. He doesn’t live in but is closeby and contributing.

We are vegetarian, and never go for meat substitutes that taste like meat: can't stand them. But we accept that some people do, and good luck to them.
Can't we try and be more tolerant?

Katie59, That's a nuisance, does she have her own little table outside? The vegans here are quite happy watching others chomp away on meat, dairy, honey etc. I just have to be very careful to cater for everyone and watch out for hidden egg, milk or butter in the strangest things - and buy the right wine!

There no difficulty in making vegan curry, many curries have meat in, just omit the meat , potato cauliflower broccoli peppers peas beans raisins the list is endless use whatever spices you want for flavor.
I would never use a bought sauce it’s so easy to DIY, I bet I could make a vegan curry and the OH would not know the difference.
I do have a vegan niece, the problem is that she will not tolerate anyone else eating meat at the same table, so socializing is difficult, that’s just one of the problems that makes life difficult for her.

Oh for heavens sake WWM1, stop being such a Virtue signalling pseud. To quote Shakespeare, 'Dost thou think that because thou art virtuous, there shall be no more cakes and ale?" Sir Toby Belch, Twelth Night Act 2, Scene 3.

My favourite vegan dish might be ‘no-chicken Kiev’, except I by eating it I discovered I can’t eat tofu without it upsetting my stomach, so presumably I’m allergic to Soya.

I have absolutely no problem with recipes/dishes that have been specially formulated for vegans being called vegan
This comment does sound like vegans are a breed apart. Vegans just don't eat all that others eat.
Though not a vegan, I'm delighted at all this vegan-labelled food in the shop. A vegan curry contains no meat/fish (like a vegetable curry obviously), but also no animal/fish-based additives which can be slipped into what appears to be vegetarian food, but in fact isn't (eg M&S sauces can contain fish additives).
I don't understand why food that definitely doesn't contain something, and is clearly labelled as such, should be objected to.
And remember it's the marketing people who make these decisions, in order to make money.

Oh! these first world problems.

I expect millions in the world would like anything to eat never mind showing irritation as to how it is presented.

How do you know it is not vegans doing this? It is just an irritant, no more.

But MOnica it’s not vegans that are doing this as you seem to think. Ok we understand you’d rather it was called vegetable curry but at the end of the day it’s a recipe not a sacred text.