food safety

A meet processing plant in Derbyshire has closed down after being visited by the food standards agency and three people arrested.
This has resulted in 120 employees being made redundant😐

Blondiescot

Gammon is different from ham. If you buy cold meat for sandwiches, then yes, it is already cooked - whether that is ham, beef, chicken, pork or whatever. And a sandwich making company is exactly what is says - where do you think supermarkets get their pre-packed sandwiches from?

I understand now. We don't eat meat, now for 10 years. Gammon, I used to purchase had to be cooked, I was ignorant to ham.

Sorry I was asked, it was because I'm unaware. I never see pre-package sandwiches, we don't look to purchase those foods.

Norah, Gammon has been cured and processed, but is not cooked before you buy it.

Ham is cooked gammon and can be purchased in any supermarket and most food shops. It comes in many varieties and qualities. You will also see cooked beef, cooked chicken and a range of cooked fish on sale in supermarkets. It can be bought ready sliced and prepacked or, if the store has a delicatessen counter, sliced directly off the bone to meet the customers requirements.

Gammon is different from ham. If you buy cold meat for sandwiches, then yes, it is already cooked - whether that is ham, beef, chicken, pork or whatever. And a sandwich making company is exactly what is says - where do you think supermarkets get their pre-packed sandwiches from?

M0nica

Ham is processed and cured prior to being sold. You do not buy legs of pork and process themselves into ham yourself.

Sandwich making companies buy all the constituent parts and just amalgamate them. They buy their butter and margarine in as well as falafels and fake meat products. They do not make them themselves. A meat processing factory might well have a unit that cooks and processes meat to sell on as prepacks to supermarkets and to the trade.

I thought gammon was processed? When we ate meat I had to cook it at home as it was still raw just brined. Perhaps I misunderstood.

IDK what a sandwich making company is, but sounds as if others are touching the food that people prepare, interesting.

Ham is processed and cured prior to being sold. You do not buy legs of pork and process themselves into ham yourself.

Sandwich making companies buy all the constituent parts and just amalgamate them. They buy their butter and margarine in as well as falafels and fake meat products. They do not make them themselves. A meat processing factory might well have a unit that cooks and processes meat to sell on as prepacks to supermarkets and to the trade.

M0nica

As I read the news item, these would have been cooked meats.

Already cooked for sandwiches? Not normal, correct?

I miss many silly products being vegan.

As I read the news item, these would have been cooked meats.

M0nica

Norah ham, chicken, duck(in wraps), roast beef, pastrami.

Just raw meat, that people cook to make sandwiches (or wraps?)?

Norah ham, chicken, duck(in wraps), roast beef, pastrami.

Miss management

They are all trying to make food cheaper, today Nestle in France announced that are closing a pizza factory because of contaminated meat caused by mismanagement last year.

Is this anything to do with it or is it another?
28 Apr 2021 The Swiss food giant Nestlé announced on Wednesday the closure of a factory in England by the end of 2023.

IrishDancing

I was hoping this was going to lead to someone telling me that the almonds I found in the cupboard, best before end Jan 23, were safe to eat. Anybody?

If in doubt I feed them to the grey squirrel.

I’ve only known cooked sliced meat such as ham, chicken and beef to be used in sandwiches, though years ago you could get meat paste, perhaps you still can. I dread to think what’s in that. And pate of course though I haven’t seen it used in sandwiches. Also some ham is processed somehow to make it into neat, thin squares - I don’t buy that.

M0nica

The item I saw was definitely an ENGLISH midlands factory and it involved meat of all types, not just chicken and include processed meat because it mention meat used in sandwiches.

The news item I saw was front page Daily Telegraph. I read it on the BBC news where they show the front pages of all the national dailies.

Out of curiosity, what is meat used in sandwiches?

When we ate meat, up to 10 or so years ago, I cooked sliced it, and used it in sandwiches. Is that the reference or what?

CallistemonI changed the topic to this case and introduced the case mentioned in the Daily Telegraph, which clearly preceded the one posted by Elegran

I was making the point that the article I first mentioned was the English Midlands and, according to the Daily Telegraph involved all types of meat, not just chicken. Here is a direct link to the article: www.pressreader.com/uk/1190
The text can be enlarged t a readable size

Do you breathe properly?

I was hoping this was going to lead to someone telling me that the almonds I found in the cupboard, best before end Jan 23, were safe to eat. Anybody?

NanaDana

Do you usually breathe out, after you've breathed in?

🤣🤣🤣
Oh no! Now there’s something else to worry about! DH is going to monitor me to check whether I do or not.

Do you usually breathe out, after you've breathed in?

welbeck

OP, are you the person who comes on MN quite often to ask if they've ever wondered if the mains water is safe ??

Oh yes, water.

Not always safe.

Sounds as though they are to be charged and come to trial for it. People living locally will know the details from employees.

midgey

Not safe for me or not safe for the planet?

Good question.

Does anyone think that life is not safe?
Walking along the street, in the countryside, driving, just breathing?

M0nica

The item I saw was definitely an ENGLISH midlands factory and it involved meat of all types, not just chicken and include processed meat because it mention meat used in sandwiches.

The news item I saw was front page Daily Telegraph. I read it on the BBC news where they show the front pages of all the national dailies.

The link posted by Elegran referred to a Midlands factory in Ireland.

Ireland has a region call the Midlands as well as mainland UK.

M0nica
The news item I saw was front page Daily Telegraph. I read it on the BBC news where they show the front pages of all the national dailies.
Yes, the article says the firm can’t be named for legal reasons.