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prolapse surgery and pessaries

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sillyoldgranny Tue 05-Jul-11 10:21:39

has anyone had good experience of prolapse repair? The net is full of horror stories. Surely they can't all go wrong?

Also anyone had good results from using a pessary?

NannaJeannie Wed 17-Aug-11 19:18:47

Thank you pinkhater

Am on day 10 now and made really good progress until today. Wham with tiredness and feeling glum. Have rested a lot and read a lot in response. Perhaps I stayed up too late last night. I am forensic about not lifting anything heavier than 1Kg, even getting DH to weigh things to check my judgement. We have just been for fish and chips and he carried them back to the car as he thought they were too heavy. They were 1.2Kg. This would have not done any damage, but to think I have just consumed about 500gm of fat aaaaarrrrggh! It was nice though and the fish was lovely.

I am itching to go and pick up all the mares tails in a gravel covered part of our garden, I think I will do that tomorrow and be very steady.

All good on the operation though, all fine in the toilet department and no pain. And sleeping much better than before the operation to put everything back into place.

Onward and upward

glammanana Wed 17-Aug-11 20:07:20

So glad to hear you are making good progress NannaJeannie be careful in the garden and don't get carried away just enjoy the rest and fuss everyone
make's of you,I did not feel fully back to myself for a good 6weeks and then
the tiredness used to just hit me so be prepared for that,hopefully the repair
I am having will not be as long in recovery but I'll just have to wait and see
I was not as fortunate as you as I had no area to really attach TVT to,
after the cancer problem yrs ago,but this botox method is said to be the
way forward finger's crossed.xx

NannaJeannie Wed 17-Aug-11 22:25:44

Yes fingers crossed glammanana was it September you had to wait until and are you in hospital overnight with the botox method?

glammanana Wed 17-Aug-11 23:09:29

Yes that's right Sept 8th but hopefully for the day,into the ward at 7-30am
and home 6ish depending on the way I feel after being put to sleep,I just
could not contemplate a local so I opted for general,I don't want to be aware of anything thank you very much!

NannaJeannie Thu 18-Aug-11 09:10:51

I absolutely agree glammanana. The very thought of what they actually did makes my eyes water. I have no idea of how many stitches I had, and all internal of course. I could have asked but I felt it was a bit melodramatic. Must have been a lot considering how tired I still am, but still VERY glad I had it done. Yes, much better to be out cold for 30 mins or so whilst they poke about.

NannaJeannie Mon 22-Aug-11 13:27:36

Start of Week 3 after my prolapse repair. I am like a caged tiger with no energy. I am up to a 25 min walk a day and a bit of pottering around the house. DH is doing his best, but drove me apoplectic last night with his antics changing the bottom sheet on the bed and putting new pillowcases on. (I decreed leaving the duvet cover as it was a step too far). I asked him to do the task and he started off very willing, but tried to put the bottom sheet on 90 degrees wrong and accused me of giving him a single sheeet, then, as I flung one of the old pillow cases on to the floor, he picked it up and tried to put it on his pillow. It was only my high pitched screams that got through.

Aside from that he made ammends by doing me some Marmite on toast for lunch, which given that he is a Marmite hater, was an expression of love.

According to my instructions, wk 2-3 sees the stitches starting to dissolve and a difference in the discharge should ensue. Otherwise I am still very comfortable, going to the loo, having a shower, no pain, no backache, no hip ache. Once my energy levels return I will be a new woman.

Still so far so good.

glammanana Mon 22-Aug-11 13:45:19

Oh NannaJ are'nt men wonderful what would we do without them and their antic's,I'm so glad you are feeling OK and as said in earlier post you will most probably not feel on the way to 100% until about 6wks.Pleased to hear all the privite bit's are working well that's a god send in it's self.Keep well and let's keep updated as to how you progress.xx

em Mon 22-Aug-11 23:45:18

Any advice for my DD who is to go into hospital in a couple of weeks for treatment (under general) which involves dilating the ureter (or whatever is the correct name for the relevant tube)? She has suffered awful urinary infections and kidney stones and ends up having to use a catheter several times a day. Has anyone undergone this procedure and with what result?

glammanana Tue 23-Aug-11 12:31:37

emI have not had to have this kind of procedure but when I have my op on 8th Sept I will have to learn to self catherise as the neck of the bladder will be frozen slightly for a few day's,and to avoid infection catheter will be necessary,I was in hospital with a girl who had similar and she found a vast differance once the procedure was complete.Good luckx

em Wed 24-Aug-11 23:33:17

Thanks for that Glam. she found using the catheter reasonably easy but it's tedious to have to go on doing it for months! This Friday she has the pre-op assessment and then the op in mid-Sept. They are hoping that this will all mean she'll be free at last of ongoing and severe urinary infections plus kidney stones. The combination of constant infection plus lots of different and ineffective anti-biotics is really getting her down!

glammanana Wed 24-Aug-11 23:59:58

I'm just hoping I will be able to use the catheter for a short period until my new stream line wrinkle free bladder works properly for the first time in years,I should not complain to much as it is the only problem left after my long period of chemo and radiotherapy when in my early 40s.

em Thu 25-Aug-11 00:02:30

I'm sure you'll be fine - if DD's experience is anything to go by. Seems the thought of it is much worse than the reality! Just be patient with yourself.

supernana Sun 28-Aug-11 13:18:59

Hello...I had a total hysterectomy nine years ago and front/back pelvic repair job done seven years ago. All well for a time and I felt so much better once fully recovered. Sadly, both bladder and bowel have gone on a wayward walkabout. Saw a delightful specialist on Friday who will be referring me to a lady surgeon in Paisley. At the same time, I'm also on the waiting list to have a second hip replaced and a cataract removed...after which, I shall be almost as good as new. I, like so many GN, have a totally wonderful husband. His tender loving care is the best medicine. I wish all those of you who are about to have, or are recovering from surgery, all that you wish for yourselves. smile

NannaJeannie Mon 29-Aug-11 08:39:28

Yes supernana it certainly helps to have an attentive DH, mine has just passsed me my laptop in bed to write my 3 week report.

I am now a full 3 weeks on from my prolapse repair (anterior cystocele, vaginal repair, no mesh at present). I had a hysterectomy about 15 years ago. 3 weeks in, I am still a bit tired, but not as tired as at the start. When you make incremental progress, it is hard to see daily improvement, but keeping a little log helps. I went to the shops on Saturday on my own and stranded myself a bit far from the bus stop, had to sit down for half an hour and then was able to carry on.

It is a delicate balance between continuing to potter around and go for a little walk, with resting all the time. If you rest too much, you lose muscle tone, if you walk too much, you flop.

I don't think my stitches have dissolved yet, I can feel at least one when I am having my soapy shower each day. I might ring the ward and ask them later in the week.

Bowel and bladder function still tip top. And physiotherapy and Pilates sessions booked for the 6 week marker.

I am still very optimistic (well you have to be don't you?)

supernana Mon 29-Aug-11 11:24:24

NannaJeanie Wishing you all manner of good things. You're on the road to recovery. Congratulations!

glammanana Mon 29-Aug-11 15:30:50

NannaJeannie just a quick hello and glad to hear you are doing well xx

sillyoldgranny Mon 05-Sept-11 09:29:17

NannaJeannie. Your posts have been a real help. I've decided to go ahead with surgery mid-October and dread feeling tired and awful afterwards. My prolapse has never been too bad-no symptons other than being aware of a bulge. But decided I didn't want to spend the rest of my life with it getting worse. But it seems such a long recovery period. My husband was back to normal after major back surgery within 3 weeks!

Do hope you are still doing fine and the garden is surviving without your attention.

em Mon 05-Sept-11 14:50:03

Glammanana I realise it's just a few days now until your surgery (remembered 'cos my daughter goes in for hers on 12th) so sending you good wishes now in case I get caught up with her and the kids and don't get back to you. Does anyone understand the procedure where the 'nonstick lining' of the bladder is replaced? Apparently the constant infections have damaged the lining which in turn encourages more infections.

glammanana Tue 06-Sept-11 18:46:53

em Thank's for the good wishe's I go in on Thursday so this week I have not really felt like posting very much,I think I am just a bit nervious of what is going to happen even though it is a short procedure,hoping you manage the DCs ok,but I bet you are like me and enjoy every minute. Hugs for your DD .

Annobel Tue 06-Sept-11 19:01:56

Thinking of you, glamma. Hope they are good to you and get everything sorted out satisfactorily.

glammanana Tue 06-Sept-11 19:44:55

Thanks Annobel at least I will have a wrinkle free bladder if nothing else,but seriously I am more anxious about this than any surgery I have had before I think it is because i have such a long tome to think about it,whereas when I had my cancer op it was straight in hospital op done and chemo treatment and no time to think about anything,but hey-ho all will be ok and I look forward to having a full night's sleep soon.

NannaJeannie Tue 06-Sept-11 21:38:40

4 weeks post pelvic repair surgery now and still improving. I am pottering around the house and doing lots now, I just have to remember to call DH for heavy things. The tiredness is easing off too. I have discovered that 20 mins with feet up on the settee is worth 2 hours sat in the chair. We managed a trip to London to see the GC which was a real tonic, but it was heartbreaking going to my little DGD in her cot with her clinging up on to my neck and I could not lift her out. I had to shout for someone to come and lift her out for me and put her on her change table so I could do her nappy.

Next stage is to start physio at the hospital and to return to Pilates pelvic floors. The thing with pelvic floor exercises is that it is so easy to lose motivation so I will take as much motivation as I can get from others.

sillyoldgranny whilst I did feel tired at the start, the improvement has been every day, AND there was no pain and I did not feel aweful, just a bit helpless, but it is passing. I suppose the tiredness is because they do such a bit cut and there is so much to 'mend'. The one thing about the anterior cystocele is that it will not get better on its own, it will only get worse, so getting it done is the best thing ever. Just follow all the instructions and you'll be reet by Christmas ! grin

glammanana Thu 08-Sept-11 18:09:18

Hi girl's well thing's went well to-day not as traumatic as first imagined, I was in for 7-30am and taken to theatre at 8-30am,did not have to have general anesthetic so done by local cream gel and I was back in the day ward at 9-10am,all ok and no discomfort so will not worry when I have to have the procedure repeated,hoping everyone is feeling ok and em everything goes ok for your DD on the 12th

JessM Thu 08-Sept-11 18:12:40

We await a report on the effects.
I keep meaning to start a thread on pelvic floor exercises... share hints etc... will do that now

em Thu 08-Sept-11 23:54:12

Good to hear you did so well, Glamma. Now don't let it go to your head - relax and recover. No rushing around saying you're fine when you need to look after yourself. Also hope the catheterising is ok - DD tells me it's fine when you get the hang of it!