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Has anyone successfully resisted hypertension meds?

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alchemillamollis Mon 19-Sept-11 19:11:48

GPs are obsessed with trying to bully me into taking meds for high blood pressure. I'm 56 and my BP is usually around 146 over 95, say.

AFAIK, they used to calculate a good BP by adding your age to 100 - so 156 for the top figure should be fine for me.

I just hate the way they try to scare me into taking pills. sad angry

I think they get bonuses for getting people onto them. Has anyone beaten their doc off?

harrigran Sun 29-Sept-19 10:54:08

The aim is to keep pressure at about 120/80 but BP fluctuates during the day.
Since this thread was started I have been off my BP meds for almost four years and it only seems to rise when I walk into the surgery or hospital waiting room.
I think GP did not believe it when I said it was not high on a daily basis so I submitted a week's readings taken at home.
If you are concerned buy a monitor and take your own BP, it will reassure you.

sandyharford1955 Sun 29-Sept-19 09:05:19

hello, ive just joined this site and its really helpful. but, can you help me please. im a 64 year old woman and im getting very confused at what an good blood pressure rate should be. im told different things. fromm 120/90 to 150/90. i am on indapamide and also have high cholestrol. i get so stressed if my blood pressure rate goes above 130/90. sorry to be a bother.

BlueSky Mon 23-Sept-19 11:08:59

Sensible advice from M0nica!

M0nica Sun 22-Sept-19 17:30:08

DH has been on hypertensives since he was 40, nothing to do with excessive salt consumption, weight or anything else. He had to have regular medicals through out his working life because of his job and even in his 20s, his blood pressure was always on the high side of normal. His GP said it was probably genetic. His grandmother had a heart attack out of the blue and died in her early 50s. He is now in his mid-70s, and has outlived both his parents.

On statins I am more cautious. Sometime ago some one on GN recommended that when the doctor says you have raised cholesterol and need statins, ask him what your chances are having a heart attack or stroke if you do nothing and then how this would change if you took statins. My GP was very disconcerted to discover that, in my cases, as with the person who recommended we do this,the difference between the two was so little that there was very little point in me taking statins. In my case my GP thought my high cholesterol was also genetic as the figure has been at exactly the same level for 10 years.

Obviously, if taking statins would have made a big difference to these risks, I would have taken them.

It is always very sensible to be cautious about taking medication - we are already suffering from doctor's willingness to prescribe and patient's willingness to demand antibiotics.

However where the risks of a condition like high blood pressure are so well known and so well attested, to refuse to take medication that is known to reduce your chances of a heart attack or stroke, which could kill you or leave you ill and disabled for the rest of a much shorter life, just strikes me as perverse.

The number of drugs and combinations on the market and available to treat high blood pressure are so many that if one drug does not suit you, another will. DH has had his medication changed a number of times, including changing medication when a mdication cause side effects.

BlueSky Sun 22-Sept-19 16:39:16

My BP was still high when checked at the surgery despite life style and medication but when I was fitted with a 24hr monitor the average was much more acceptable. I remember being advised not to eat too much salt even when I was in my teens!

KatyK Sun 22-Sept-19 12:07:17

Oops. I hadn't noticed this was an old thread!

Barmeyoldbat Sun 22-Sept-19 12:03:21

alchemilamollis, I do yoga, eat a very low salt diet, cycle and eat a healthy diet . YET I have high blood pressure so I take the tablet, no side effects, and get on with life.

Its the same for my pain, when I need it I take painkillers just so I can live a life.

jeanie99 Sun 22-Sept-19 07:35:31

I hate taking medication but unfortunately I have been unable to lower my High Blood pressure even though I am active and healthy. I'm only on a low dose 2.5 mg it bring my BP down to around 140/80.
I was advice to take Statins some years ago and I did for about 6 months but I had side effects of memory loss and GP took me off then straight away as soon as he knew.

Riverwalk Sun 22-Sept-19 07:20:24

The OP started this thread eight years ago!

I wonder if she did take her meds in the end .... haven't seen her around hmm

Ryandgreat8 Sun 22-Sept-19 07:18:20

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KatyK Sat 21-Sept-19 18:30:07

When I was first put on BP meds 15 years ago, my BP was 208/110. My GP was unconcerned and sent me home to 'rest' for a week - like I could rest with that on board. I asked if I was could have a stroke and she said 'yes you could but it won't be due to your BP'. I went back after a week and she put me on meds. It always goes through the roof when a medical person takes it but none of them seem concerned.

humptydumpty Sat 21-Sept-19 16:30:50

alchemillamollis please keep monitoring your BP. As has been pointed out this is not ahealthy BP, it should be close to 120/80. Dying of a heart attack would be the least of my worries - you are putting yourself at a much-increased risk of a stroke, have you ever met anyone who has had one, would you really want to live like that for the rest of your life? My brother had a blood-pressure-related stroke at 50, 19 years ago, and has become progressively more disabled.

growstuff Sat 21-Sept-19 16:12:15

If you have problems with ACE inhibitors, you can ask to try Angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) instead. ACE inhibitors are well-known for causing a dry cough.

FlexibleFriend Sat 21-Sept-19 15:29:49

The choice is yours they can't force you to take them.
I simply said no knowing the risks etc. I believed I didn't need them and they were erring too far on the side of caution. So I simply said no to both statins and Bp pills and although I get sent reminders to come along to several clinics etc. I ignore them. That said if I develop heart issues I'll re-evaluate at the moment I don't want to take unnecessary medications.

Ryandgreat8 Sat 21-Sept-19 13:47:24

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JessM Wed 19-Oct-11 08:42:04

Hey - sorry if you thought my response was rude Alchemillamollis . I thought your OP was couched in very extreme terms. Maybe I was being a little blunt - but I did admit that at the time. Good luck with the keeping fit.
I had never heard of the lactotripeptides before - they have only been tried on Japanese people by the looks of things.

earlybabe Thu 29-Sept-11 18:57:38

I never suffered with blood pressure until I had an operation for lung cancer
(lower left lung removed) drugs did not appear to be making any difference so my doctor took me off them.They remained eratic for some time at between 150to160over80/90 Now after my caffeine regime it is 140-145 over 80/90 occassionly less.
! find the tesco coffee to be very good and I have grown to quite like it the tea is not so good but I do take a flask up to my allotment most days so I have no choice but to drink it.
Sorry to take time to reply but I've done decorating for the past week in order to earn brownie points so that I can disappear back up the allotment

alchemillamollis Fri 23-Sept-11 23:01:45

Thanks, Earlybabe, I am a caffeine addict so you are quite right to raise the issue. I'm trying to stick to Redbush (Rooibosch) Tea, and only to have coffee at the gym. That way the damage wrought by the coffee is unwrought by the workout (I hope).

expatmaggie Fri 23-Sept-11 19:37:49

Harrigan I used to be on ACE drugs and they were the ones which affected me most. Heart pain and trouble with a dry infected throat. The ENT doctor said he wished the GPs would stick to the old well tried drugs, his surgery was full of people on ACE inhibitors. I felt better off them and take combination of others. 3 or 4 drugs over 24 hours are better than a huge amount of one drug.
I am definitiely not on superior drugs but on duiretic and beta- blockers.
But I have been to a cardiologist and after an exhausting 40 minutes he pronounced me not in danger of a heart attack. I now peddle on my exercise bike 3 times a week.

earlybabe Fri 23-Sept-11 18:48:54

I don't know if it's relevant But 6 months ago I was advised to cut out caffine because of a prostrate problem.It took some getting used to decaf tea and coffee but now I am quite used to it.
The bonus is that my blood pressure has reduced by 15 points I don;t know if this is the reason but I can't see any other

alchemillamollis Fri 23-Sept-11 17:25:34

Oh, thanks for explaining.

I spent an hour in the gym and an hour in the outdoor pool. Yoga is booked for 8.15am tomorrow!!!

I. Mean. Business.

harrigran Fri 23-Sept-11 12:33:03

It is not unusual to take a combination of drugs, I used to take a diuretic and aspirin as well alongside a PPI to protect stomach as I have a hiatus hernia.

Annobel Fri 23-Sept-11 11:48:07

When my BP was unusually high, my doctor waited a few minutes and checked again, by which time it was back to normal. You can't take one reading as definitive. I try to do relaxation exercises in the waiting room so that it won't seem to be high, but on that occasion, evidently I needed to try harder!

Mamie Fri 23-Sept-11 11:44:46

I think some people with hypertension need several drugs to control it. OH has three for blood pressure plus statins. It took quite a long time to get the combination right, but then his BP was 230 over 110, twelve years ago when it was first diagnosed - and he hadn't had any symptoms.

alchemillamollis Fri 23-Sept-11 09:26:38

Thanks, PoppaRob; sorry to hear you have had an enlarged heart. I'm glad your meds are keeping you well now.

I think I'm in the position you refer to in your last sentence. I reckon if I make really sensible lifestyle choices now, I can head off the damage.

I wondered why Harrigran was taking beta blockers, calcium antagonists, ACE inhibitors and statins - because I though they were alternatives for hypertension, so not sure why a patient would need to take them all?

Anyway, must get off to the gym now...