It's ok to eat fat after all, says Michael Mosley

Oh I do Jingle. If you go to Soop's kitchen you'll see what I'm cooking tonight. Pity you can't join us

Whatever!

MicElf I do hope you find other ways to enjoy life. I do like the odd bit of Angel layer.

Sorry, bags I unintentionally dropped you in it there. We all think for ourselves and weigh up information. As far as I am concerned, it's moderation in all things and don't rely on processed food when I can cook from scratch.

Now they have started worrying us about the amount of sugar in fruit and telling us to limit the amount of fruit we eat.
Whereas we should be worrying about the amount of sugars such as fructose in processed food; such foods may well include trans fats as well. We are getting information in 'sound bites' instead of being told the whole picture.

Unfortunately it seems a huge number of people do not eat real, unprocessed food and that is the message that needs to be got across.

Fortunately one can usually find a review to suit one's liking.
Here is Dr Briffa, reviewing the reviews so we don't have to.
www.drbriffa.com/2014/03/21/yet-another-major-review-finds-no-reason-at-all-to-limit-saturated-fat-in-the-diet

Here is his conclusion:
"There is some variation in what the scientific literature appears to show in terms of the impact different dietary fats have on heart health. However, if I were to summarise what the evidence points to as a whole, I would say:

1. There appears to be no good evidence to fear fats found naturally in the food supply (including saturated fat)

2. Processed fats (e.g. industrially produced trans fats) should be avoided.

In other words, eat real, unprocessed food, and perhaps forget about the amount and types of fat in that food."

Seems sensible to me.

Sorry, meant to say that this is interesting (above post) but hit the 'post' too soon; the cause of obesity is probably more due to high fructose corn syrup in processed foods than fat.
Added to which, many of us eat more and exercise less than our forebears did.

And some of the gospels are 'missing'

However, I do agree with you, thatbags, and think that a lot of reports and results of trials are 'tweaked' or even 'lost' to suit the food industry or government diktat.

www.theguardian.com/business/2012/jun/11/why-our-food-is-making-us-fat

Warning to all gransnetters reading my posts: do not take anything I say as gospel (not that the gospels are renowned for accuracy). That should cover all the H&S and liability wotsits. <dusts hands and goes to make cup of tea with full fat milk>

Before anyone asks here is the report that questions the validity

Are you qualified to put forward an expert opinion Bags or is this just your opinion? I don't mean that in any bad way, but there are people on this forum who might take your views as gospel and significantly increase their saturated fat intake.

As I understand it the jury is still out on the saturated fat question as several other scientists have questioned the validity of the most recent research due some errors.

Jingl I do think for MiceElf. That's why I don't ever buy or eat 'shop' cakes or what my mother called 'dealt with by others' food.

And I don't snack. I think bags is right, the food that people (not the vey rich or those in poverty) have eaten for thousands of years is tried and tested and in fact tastes much better than any of the 'added value' products.

And fat doesn't' have to show on the outside. Think internal organs.

What makes you think this lot of experts have got it right?

Or do you just want excuses to be fatties?

"foods people have been eating for thousands of years"*Bags*? How long did they live then?

You can't compare past ages with the present. Too much is different. Lifestyle to start with.

You all seem to be very willing to follow the "experts". Even though they keep changing their minds.

#thinkforyourselves. #instinctisgood

Ta bags

The thinking, as I understand it, is that foods people have been eating for thousands of years, including genetically modified modern versions, are just fine.

Bags you consistently said that fat is fine and it's good to see it being publicised now. I never buy marg/spreads, use goose and duck fat, butter and various oils, and now I'm wondering if things like pork dripping and lard will increase in popularity again. What's the thinking on these fats, given the advice we get about eating less of certain red meats?

No, it was the publication of bad science that caused the misinformation to spread – only a limited and adjusted set of badly designed experiment results were used to form the erroneous conclusions.

There is an analogous situation now with regard to unpublished result of medical trials. You don't get the full picture if only the positive results (in the case of medical trials) or negative results (in the case of the food fat studies) are published.

I think this was brought to the forefront by Time Magazine where it stated 'In October 2013, cardiologist Aseem Malhotra rocked the nutrition world with his declaration that saturated fat is good for you.' It was also claimed that the experts got it wrong for 40 years. A British doctor had stated that it was sugars and not fats that were the culprits but he was shouted down, apparently.

www.examiner.com/article/saturated-fat-gets-vindicated-by-mainstream-media-on-stunning-time-cover

Thankfully, my mother detested margarine (or spreads, as they are now called) and she labelled it 'tasteless, soidified oil' so it has always been butter for us.

I can't help wondering if it was all nothing more than a 40 year trial going on!

Aha, looked him up. The 5:2 chappie. Wonder what he'll come up with next.

Yes.

Same as we can now enjoy eggs again after being told that they were bad for us

Oooh, I like the sound of this man (hadn't heard of him either). Does this mean I can enjoy toast and dripping (well salted), cold lamb fat and crispy bacon fat again?

Me too, lona, though I've recently discovered Waitrose unsalted butter which is cheaper but just as nice as Lurpak and which has the added advantage in the cool part of the world where I live of being spreadable at our usually cool ambient room temperature. Had to keep giving pats of Lurpak zaps in the microwave to stop it tearing up the bread, especially in winter.

Too much exercise can be just as bad for one as too little. Witness people dropping dead after running marathons.