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Wish I hadn't asked, but oddly glad I did

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Flowerofthewest Fri 03-Oct-14 23:03:27

I saw my consultant today for my 'after CT scan chat' He was lovely and very pleased with me. As things were going well I thought I would ask a few pertinent questions pertaining to my cancer.

Q. How likely is it that my cancer with recur?
A. Well, as you are predisposed to this type of cancer and we do not know why it occurred then it could, that is why we scan you every 12 months and bladder scan every 12 months.

Q. So, if you find it has reoccurred then you will remove it, but I only have
on kidney left. What will you do then?
A. It should be quite small so we could zap it by going up the ureter and into the kidney and zap it from the inside.

Q. Does my fat around my middle mean that I am more likely to get this type of cancer again?

A. No but it does mean that your life expectancy is less than if you didn't
have it. Most of my patients in their 80s have nice flat tummies. I
see ladies of 80 or 90 with fat tummies.

Q. How big was my kidney because the scar on my lower side is enormous?
A. We did robotic surgery on the kidney but because yours was the size
of a rugby ball (hmmm?) and we had to make a large incision to get
it all out. The fat around the kidney was immense.

That is why I thought I had had open surgery but this would have been around my waist area. The conversation about the robotic surgery arose because he mentioned that the government were pulling funds out of this surgery after 7 successful years. No thought to the patients who can go back to work after a couple of days compared to a few months with open surgery. I had robotic but a very large incision (around 9") and it took me about 4 months or more until I was strong and without pain.

Kiora Sat 04-Oct-14 08:32:46

I hope you continue to make good progress flowerfollowing your conversation with said consultant I think I'd better diet !

Anya Sat 04-Oct-14 09:36:37

His answer about flat and fat tummies seems contradictory. Is that what you meant to write?

Hope it all goes well Flower

Nelliemoser Sat 04-Oct-14 10:14:42

Flowerofthewest I wonder if the risks of fat around the middle and the association with earlier mortality is just statistical and applies to everyone.

Do you feel reassured by the consultant or not? I can understand how this is a constant worry for you. flowers for Flower

Mishap Sat 04-Oct-14 11:50:52

It is always difficult when we decide to ask questions of consultants, as the answers are never quite as clear-cut as we might wish.

It does sound as though they are taking every precaution and monitoring you very carefully, which must be hugely reassuring.

I bet you feel better without the rugby ball!!!

Grannyknot Sat 04-Oct-14 12:20:06

anya I'm assuming he said "I don't see patients of 80 with fat tummies".

Then there's my MIL, 85 years old, advanced Alzheimer's but loves her food (so she's very fat despite being fed in tiny spoonfuls). She was diagnosed 20 years ago and her doctor have just told us she's "physically in very good shape".

Grannyknot Sat 04-Oct-14 12:20:42

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Flowerofthewest Sat 04-Oct-14 15:48:58

Hi, meant flat not fat tummies. I assumed he meant that they had all died with the fat tummies.

The kidney op was over three years ago and according to him is a good sign that nothing has returned yet.

My friend's mum was 94 when she died, diabetes, fat tummy etc. so I suppose he means most of the ladies 80 or 90 had flat tummies.

I am fine though thanks. Really am. He did say that he wants his patients to get past feeling that they are cancer patients. I have got past that with support from the wonderful urology team and Macmillian nurses, also my family. I don't really think about it unless I am due for a scan.

Problem was Mishap that the 'rugby ball' wasn't the cancer that was the 'rugby ball' it was the fat around it. Therefore I must still have a 'rugby ball' the other side, It will reduce when I lose weight.

durhamjen Sat 04-Oct-14 15:55:16

My husband had a very flat tummy and he died at 65. He never fits any pattern. He must have been unique.

annodomini Sat 04-Oct-14 16:25:28

My dad's mantra was 'you never see a fat old man'. He was never fat but died at 75 anyway. I'll catch up on him in a year and a half and need to lose some a lot of weight if I'm to outlive him.