Kalms.

There are 2 types of Nytol, the green one does NOT contain anti-histamine if I remember well.

The quantities of herbs used in Kalms would hardly cause any problems, and may help, perhaps some people more than others.

Why all the doom and gloom Jingle- are you medically qualified btw?

Falconbird, go and talk to the pharmacist or to your GP- much better than an internet Forum. Hope you find help.

Tegan do you give your dog piriton on the advice and with supervision of your vet?

No I'm not medically qualified Granjura. Just tried the lot of it in my time.

And where is the "doom and gloom" in what I've said? I have posted my answer to the original post, that's all.

Do you want me to lie?

Useful to have an opinion from someone who's tried them jingl .. after all we can still make our own decision at the end of the day.

They didn't work on me - that was why I went on to try the hard stuff!

I found them useful with my children before exams, like a placebo. I told them that they would be calm - so they were.

Trouble with "proper" anti-anxiety medication, I'd probably suffer from the nocebo effect

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo

I avoid taking medicines if I can help it. If I can't help it, I take them "like a good girl".

I was over-excited last night, so I popped a Kalms Night or 2 (remembered I had them from this thread, had to check they were still in date), slept like a log, no weird dreams, no fuzzy head this morning.

OOH Grannyknot should we ask?

I tried Kalms but had a bad reaction to them . I take mangnesium now which does help. I use Floradix Magnesium liquid formula. I got mine in Holland and Barrett but I am sure you can buy it elsewhere. If you google Magnesium supplements it is quite an eye opener.

Haha annsixty

littleflo I swear by magnesium and have written about it on these forums before. I use the oil spray.

Ann60 Perhaps that's why she's called GrannyNot -. she gets excited so takes an antidote.

Ha Grannyknot, I wonder if that is where I first read about it. If so, thank you. I use the spray on my knees and calfs. I used to get really bad cramps in my calfs that kept me awake.

Oooh- my sister swears by magnesium spray. Please tell what, why and how! She was very vague but said I should have it..

And now I know that DBH is a 'nocebo' person. Unless it has been proscribed by a sports therapist, apparently. Who are Gods and know far better than wives who have spent hours and hours researching stuff on the internet for them, and their doctors.

I can't be without it, it's available at Boots or Amazon, everywhere really. I buy the one with lavender in it:

www.amazon.co.uk/BETTER-MAGNESIUM-GOOD-NIGHT-SPRAY/dp/B00289SX28

And this is from the Victoria Health website:

Magnesium Oil Joint Spray is ideal for direct application to inflamed and painful joint and muscle tissues. Magnesium helps to relax muscle and nerves and this helps to alleviate pain and stiffness. Magnesium Oil Joint Spray also contains glucosamine sulphate together with the cooling and calming effect of menthol and the anti inflammatory and pain relieving qualities of wintergreen oil. Glucosamine suphate is responsible for the production of connective tissue and stimulates cells that encourage the formation of cartilage.

Find out more about Magnesium Oil - Joint Spray in Shabir Daya's (Victoria Health's pharmacist) article https://www.victoriahealth.com/editorial/magnesium-the-most-important-mineral-we-all-overlook

So I just realised, it is being recommended by a professional - a pharmacist - and it is complementary medicine

I see why she recommended it now, but I had so much to do after she visited that I never got around to getting any or googling it. I had just sprained my ankles and damaged my knee, she brought me over a big bag of Epsom salts and told me to lob the whole lot in the bath! That practically knocked me out. I was like a zombie, I had never used it in huge quantities before. It made for a very expensive bath, though.

I've never heard of that - so the Epsom Salts acted as a relaxant?

Yes, but you have to use loads. I'm no expert. She is a yoga instructor and very healthy, skinny and sickeningly beautiful for a 54 year old - so something must work! Although I have to say her crystal deodorant recommendation didn't work...

Never take health advice from an internet sales site.

I tend to agree with you there, jings!

... or an online forum!

The latter is less costly.

Indeed

Why? If you took advice from an online forum and you agreed with it you'd still go out and buy the stuff. Conversely, just because you read an article on a website, that doesn't mean you buy whatever is being promoted.