Good friends who won't diet

I would advise Stop Worrying janer
You will make yourself ill from worritting!
Just enjoy their company- you can describe the lovely things you've seen on your walks when you get back to their bench!

You can't alter other people you can only alter yourself.

You have to allow people to live the lives they want even if it is killing them slowly because it is their life.

My wonderful mother who had never smoked or drunk alcohol was slim and walked everywhere died when she was 79 from bowel cancer.

My mother in law who smoked until she was 65 lived until she was 92.

Another relative of mine was huge must have weighed 25 stone lived until she was 79,same age as my mother.

You just never know what's in store for anyone.

Blow all this talk about large/small/cut crystal glasses. Buy yourselves some medieval style pottery goblets then nobody knows how much you've got in there.

No - because they smoke like chimneys! They do have faces that are full of character though, they are both very sociable. It's a shame I can't put their photos on here. I value my own life too highly though.

DM always said it was your face or your figure as you got older.
I wonder if janer's friends have lovely plump, smooth, unwrinkled skin?

Granted granjura but she will be 80 next month too.

Gasp granjura
How could you!
Mary Berry is practically a saint

(Anyway, she is older than us, we don't know how wrinkled we will be at that age - if we I get there)

J52- I really like the idea of a really beautiful smaller glass- I've inherited some beautiful cut crystal baccarat (French) glasses, and use those- and they are much smaller.

Sour grapes, lol. Mary Berry may well be very self disciplined, but she is wrinkled like an old prune. Us more cuddly ladies tend not to be ;)

Mary Berry is very self-disciplined - I wish I was the same!

You can know what you should do in theory but the practice is often difficult. They sound as if they just don't want to know and don't care either.

I thought there were six glasses of wine in a bottle, so I can't be that bad!

I take your point completely S2B

I am talking about people I know in real life Anya.

I think I know the person you are talking about Jane

She is very given to putting their meals on facebook, with photos, and I groan. I think I shall have to 'hide' her posts.

They taste their cooking as they go along, and then have a full meal on top.

Mary Berry does OK but yes, certainly Nigella and most of the men are a bit 'cuddly' '

I dont think that good cooks have it easy in the trying to lose weight way.

I find that drinking from an especially lovely crystal wine glass that holds a smaller amount, means that two glasses worth last long time.
I don't know why, but I think its to do with the glass. x

I think you're right, he had just retired, she was feeling hemmed in at home, she enjoys cooking and is an excellent cook and maybe it became their hobby. One that got out of hand. They have even got a gardener in, I had been thinking they could at least get some exercise out there.

Rose I think you're on to the problem when you said 'eating makes them happy'. That's not quite to sane as saying we enjoy our food, I'm sure most of us do.

To say it 'makes them happy' sounds as if they don't have enough of other things in their life that make them happy, and that could be the problem.

I've never met a carb I didn't like!! I know I should lose weight but somehow I just don't. I have been very successful on diets when I was younger and always lost several stones. However, they made me absolutely obsessed with food. I was very thin though. I was a skinny child too.
Colleagues when I was working were on constant diets with massive fluctuations -really unhealthy to go on holiday, as one did for example, and put on 18lbs in a week. I worried about her metabolism.
So I'm plump and happy now. I judge myself by whether I still fit my clothes and I do. DD says I must have been fat for years then!

Or perhaps you just have very big wine glasses?

But it all starts in the shopping basket. If you buy Doritos ,you will eat them. If you bake and freeze then the food can be apportioned. I do buy cream to whisk into sauces although sometimes I laugh at myself using low fat milk on my leek and potato soup and adding a swirl of cream. Granjura my DH takes risks like climbing on the roof or up trees but if he lives to 96 like your father I shall be very happy and not complain
It's worth remembering that there are five glasses of wine in a bottle so if the bottle is empty and you've only had two glasses you have a problem. The you was not referring to anyone on this thread!

It's obvious that eating makes them happy, janer and I don't think any amount of hints, plain talking or recipes is going to change them.

I made a malt loaf the other week, I had to freeze some of it else I would have eaten all of it more than my fair share!