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Being overweight increases incidence of cancer

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JessM Tue 17-Mar-15 07:21:46

Seriously overweight women have a significantly higher risk of some cancers including 2 of the most common - bowel and post-menopausal breast cancer.
Women seem to be getting bigger and bigger - what on earth could be done to halt or reverse this trend.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-31917876

Faye Wed 18-Mar-15 17:57:31

Politicians being interviewed were put on the spot rosequartz, they were told this wasn't good enough. It really is hard to find berries grown in Australia, more often there is imported fruit and vegetables in the supermarkets. People also don't realise imports from New Zealand can contain food from anywhere in the world. Honey from Turkey which was previously banned now gets through via NZ. confused

Late last year I was buying the most delicious nectarines and peaches direct from a grower for a $1 a kilo. This fruit was rejected for export to Japan as it was too large. Ten kilometres down the road the local supermarket sells tasteless nectarines and peaches. The exported fruit probably won't be so delicious either, fruit never is after being refridgerated.

JessM Wed 18-Mar-15 17:45:15

I think it is not the odd treat (e.g. once a week) that causes weight gain. It's the everyday ones.

rosequartz Wed 18-Mar-15 11:35:02

Faye my family were concerned too as they can't get fresh berries where they live - you would think though, with the size of Australia, that berries could be grown in cooler climates down south.
I thought Australian were quite protectionist about their farmers and did not import a lot of food so I was very surprised to see the link on FB. I think they got away with it by saying they were 'packed in Australia'.

jings I think the delicious moment takes a little while to catch up. I have had many delicious moments over the cold winter and it has all caught up with me now.

loopylou Wed 18-Mar-15 10:28:33

Chinese herbal remedies have been blamed for very serious kidney and liver damage.
I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. The effects were accumulative and disastrous for those involved. There was a TV programme about it a couple of years ago, very scary watching.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 18-Mar-15 09:53:01

How long does it take for a delicious moment sin to register in the bod? If it's been two days can you safely assume you got away with it?

JessM Wed 18-Mar-15 09:50:26

Best bet: lack of toilets and hand washing facilities for those picking berries...

Anya Wed 18-Mar-15 09:40:36

Yuk! Wonder what was used as fertiliser? Doesn't bear thinking about.

JessM Wed 18-Mar-15 09:36:24

Yes Faye my son's family were worried about this as they all consumed this product. They have concluded the health risks of these berries outweigh any benefits!

Faye Wed 18-Mar-15 09:32:42

Very recently Hepatitis A outbreaks in Australia have been caused by frozen berries imported from China. What was really galling were berries from China were also in brands the public thought were grown in Australia. In all about five brands were recalled. I wouldn't buy anything edible from China.

JessM Wed 18-Mar-15 08:30:12

Those of you who know me of old will guess that I agree with janeainsworth. There is no scientific evidence that any of them work.
There is a common misconception that herbal medicines are "natural" and therefore "harmless". Not true.
Herbal medicines can contain unknown contaminants - heavy metals, bacteria etc. Also some of the "herbal" material used is not safe.
I would not trust any of them.
Remember that in China, not so long ago, there was contaminated/adulterated baby milk being sold with tragic consequences:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
It is an enormous country with an economy that has been developing very, very rapidly and regulation is inevitably going to be patchy.
I somehow don't think that either in China or when they arrive the UK every herbal product is checked for safety. If you buy something on the Internet, it is likely to be even more unreliable.

The regulating agency, the MHRA regularly publish warnings about harmful and contaminated Chinese medicines, such as this one, a common ingredient that is "nephrotoxic, carcinogenic, and mutagenic" in other words it can damage your kidneys and cause cancer.

https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-update/illegal-herbal-remedies-containing-aristolochia-vigilance-needed

Anya Wed 18-Mar-15 07:56:12

Fair enough!

Fili Wed 18-Mar-15 07:54:34

I'm not advertising and unfortunately this web-site is not mine=) But i bought some things there and thought that it would help somebody else

janeainsworth Wed 18-Mar-15 07:49:14

I don't think resorting to Chinese herbs is the way to go, with all due respect Fili.

Anya Wed 18-Mar-15 07:48:39

That's the second time you've put a link to that website Fili Are you aware of the rules about advertising on GN? hmm

Fili Wed 18-Mar-15 07:44:20

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Anya Wed 18-Mar-15 07:28:21

Wonder what will happen if I have cupcake today? Will it all go back on?

Anya Wed 18-Mar-15 07:27:29

Or my scales are on the blink

Anya Wed 18-Mar-15 07:27:06

I've lost 3lbs since Monday hmm this C the C diet must be working, though I expect it's mainly fluid.

Grannyknot Wed 18-Mar-15 07:18:35

soon - crun is a he not a she.

JessM Wed 18-Mar-15 07:17:23

Yes. There is a mountain of interesting stuff on the Cancer Research UK website. e.g.

scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2014/11/20/the-risk-factor-new-evidence-on-obesity-and-prostate-cancer/

I think the info in the OP will have been based on a particular study involving women. CRUK website somewhat over- comprehensive at times and I can't find it.

thatbags Wed 18-Mar-15 06:46:27

Do seriously overweight men have the same (or similar in the case of post-menopausal) higher risk of some cancers, jess?

Riverwalk Tue 17-Mar-15 23:44:21

Absent meat from the US is not banned in the UK - there are a number of London restaurants that take pride in selling USDA steaks e.g. Christopher's Grill in Covent Garden.

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 17-Mar-15 22:05:18

Plain wrappers for Freddos for starters.

JessM Tue 17-Mar-15 21:37:10

Obviously the food industry lobbies politicians and influences policies.
But would legislation help?

Does anyone think that any of these measures would help:
taxing sweet stuff
restricting advertising of confectionery or "junk foods"
health warnings on high calorie products like coke

janeainsworth Tue 17-Mar-15 20:55:05

Mamie thank you for the link. I think the comment
'How can you make any industry responsible for policing itself ? It just doesn’t work.’ is the saddest indictment not only of the food industry but perhaps of society itself.

Perhaps I am hopelessly naive to expect it, but it seems to me that if industries (and professions) cannot be relied on to regulate themselves, not only does that mean that there is no ethical basis in society, but the cost, and the basis, of regulation falls to the Government of the day and ultimately the tax payer - it costs us all dearly both financially and in terms of the erosion of trust.

Jingle they look yummy envy