Also, thinking when I have more space, to get a small home sauna, it might help with my pain. 
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That's all really. It's been getting me down lately.
Also, thinking when I have more space, to get a small home sauna, it might help with my pain. 
I hope you are feeling a bit better thatbags. Is there a pool near you where the water is a lot warmer? There is one a drive away from me and I have been a few times when I lived nearer but not been for a while due to not being able to get there. I have just had a light bulb moment, I now have my car and can now get there! Yeah! When I feel a bit better, I will attempt tp get there - if only for the hot chocolate! A new costume calling perhaps? 
Interesting to read this thread. I have osteoporosis and arthritis and my knees are very weak but fortunately I am not at the stage of experiencing pain like so many are. I will look up your link opelessgran15 and have a go at the excercises to try and keep supple for as long as possible. Thank you for posting it.
So sorry for all those who are suffering constant pain. Hope there is improvement soon 
Thatbags
and (((hugs))) from me as well.
Only just seen this bags, glad you're feeling slightly more up today. 
I have bad knee pain some of the time and it certainly drags me down. I don't know how you cope so well when the pain is relentless.
I know you are a sensible person but go easy on yourself xx ((Hugs))
Another time I put 'piles' on the list (I needed batteries for the torch- but again it took me a while to realise !)
Now you are feeling better - just a little 'joke'.
I made a shopping list some time ago- in English. Left it on the kitchen table to add to until I did go shopping- and added a few items a couple of times.
When I checked it at the supermarket, I noticed the 'pain' in the middle of the list - and just couldn't work it out- why did I not put 'paracetamol' or 'ipobrufen'??? Then I realised I needed 'bread' ... it was the only item in French on the list, for some reason.
Take care x
So glad to hear you had a much better night and day x
Sending my sympathies to all you others who are in constant pain 
That research sounds most interesting, petra. Let's hope the trials are successful and it can become widespread treatment!
Thank you again, everybody. I've had a good day today. Went out walking gently with a friend and it has been a glorious sunny, warm day.
I think my knee knew how fed up I'd been with it for the last few days. At any rate it has behaved a bit better today, thank goodness. Had a good night's sleep too, didn't wake up at all for the loo, which I usually do at least once.
Thanks also for the tips about exercises. I'll certainly check those out and maybe try some. I might ask at the GP practice for physio advice too, next time I'm there.
As anno suggested, sharing probably helps somewhat. Gransnet proves its worth once again! You are all much appreciated 
from anither who knows how it drags you down, and can offer nothing more than sympathy.
I am in constant pain from neuropathy. The burning pain my foot and leg makes it horrendous to walk even a little way. And of course no cure , just medication that isn't
even for it and doesn't really work. Chronic pain is something that no one can understand until they have it. Ruins everything in life completely.
Disgraceful|! I hope you can get some recompense.
Sorry to hear this bags, hope you'll have some improvement soon. Relentless pain is hard to bear 
Yes I saw the article about taking fat etc, let's hope something works for chronic pain soon. I also have plantar fasciitis whilst not serious is painful and draining. The compression sock I am wearing at the moment is sooo attractive.
I believe (from a recent lecture I attended) that long-term chronic pain is a whole other ball game. I got the impression that the pain takes on almost a life of its own, becoming a "constant companion".
I wish I could wave a magic wand ...
And I hope there's respite from it for bags and others ....
I read an article this morning which said they are doing trails in Saudi Arabia where the are taking fat from the patients own body and injecting it into the problem area.
They said the results will be published in the British Medical Journal in December.
So true- booked a week to help with my knee, with a warm pool, sauna and steam room- only to be told on arrival it was closed for refurb. Furious doens't describe how I felt! Grrr.
Never used to be a sun worshipper till old age brought arthritis with it. Don't go abroad much these days, though, but go to the sauna/steam room at the local leisure centre and feel much better for getting some warmth into my body.
Sympathies from another sufferer, I feel so awful this morning. Have shouted at my 10 year old. and am now feeling guilty.
Shame on me!!
Hope you all feel better soon 
You have my sympathy bags, pain drags you down and makes you feel miserable

It's a bummer thatbags, I have every sympathy, waiting for a knee op myself, so I do understand about what a misery the pain can be. What I will say ( and I don't know your exact circumstances, so I may need to be forgiven for this!) is that I find knee exercises help enormously. Our doctors practice have a physio attached , and they sent me for physiotherapy at the height of my pain for six sessions ( agony, but it did help) , then a knee exercise class for 4 weeks (painful at the start, but it really did help) Since then, I have looked on Arthritis Research UK, under arthritis information, there is a section on 'Exercises to manage pain' knees, neck etc. I do the seven knee exercises at least every other day, and they have at lease kept me much more mobile. It sounds like you have fibromyalgia too, so it may not be possible to exercise? The site has lots of other info, downloadable leaflets etc, so it may help you - or others reading this- in other ways. But pain is bloody miserable, debilitating and depressing some days, exercise or no exercise. I blame genetics and years of aerobics in the 70's and 80's ( b. Jane Fonda!!).
I hate being in pain. It makes me very irritable. Luckily for me, that is not the case at the moment. So
to you thatbags and all other GNs suffering from chronic pain. And you don't have to be heroes all the time. There is no harm in having a good moan when you feel overwhelmed.
How are you doing this morning bags?
My sil who lives in Surrey intends to go and spend 3 months in a warmer country next winter- and I can totally understand that. I can still hear my mother saying her knees were sore when the weather was changing, and me laughing, saying 'don't be silly mummy, that can't make any difference' - oh yes, it does!
Yes, hope you had a good night's sleep and feel much better today x
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