Hormones in milk

Thanks Anya. I'm not pushing her to drink milk but she mentioned seasonal increase. She's in Switzerland so they don't follow eu rules . Loads of broccoli then.

Elegran Thanks! I was fairly sure they had been banned in the UK long ago.

But by eating cheese and cream etc you would still be consuming the same milk with all it's benefits and potential hormones.

Hormones in Milk; Fact/Fiction

Decide for yourself

When DD1 was around 14/15 I was advised to give her full cream milk instead of skim milk. Within a week she had acne on her face and beginning to appear down her back. I knew it was the milk because nothing else had changed in her diet, she reverted back to skim milk and it quickly cleared up. I believe milk is a cause of acne for some teenagers. If I was in that position now I would not give my children dairy. DD2 was highly allergic to dairy through her childhood, there are other foods.

Dairy without added hormones, still contains natural hormones. I can't see dairy as a healthy food and there are more healthy alternatives for calcium.

I can't stand the taste of milk, never drank it as a child or since and I don't take it in my tea. However, I like dairy products - cheese and yoghurt especially, and, need I say, hot chocolate. My dad made us chew revolting calcium tablets - he was also averse to milk. Nevertheless, I have rubbish teeth, but apparently that is owing to my childhood in the West of Scotland where the water is very soft. Mind you, I still have most of my own teeth.

stansgran, maybe it's just her way of saying she doesn't like milk. Just accept it.

Two of my daughters have not drunk milk since they were weaned. Both of them eat cheese, yogurt, cream, and butter and always have.

My paternal grandfather wouldn't eat anything that had milk in it. No milk in his tea (he was a non-beer-drinking miner so drank about a gallon of strong black tea daily) no custard, no cream. He probably ate butter.

It is not necessary to human health for us to drink milk or to eat milk products. Oriental diets haven't included milk and milk products until very recently. They got their calcium from some fruits and from seafood.

If she is anti-milk, then she will be anti-cheese, yoghurt, butter.

Milk isn't essential in the diet of a child. There is calcium in yogurt and cheese and butter. Also in green leafy vegetables and broccoli. I have never been able to drink milk, it induces severe vomiting! I grew up with strong healthy bones just eating a good varied diet.

And the chemicals in farmed salmon.....

I lived for 20 years in a farming community Jalima

Believe me there are a fair few rogues in the farming communities and the testing is not as thorough as I would wish. I could tell you some tales you would never believe.

Just take for example how the last foot and mouth outbreak originated, at a certain pig farm and what the animals were being fed, illegally. And then of course, not much testing of horse meat until it had already entered the food chain several months later.

I think most are and there is constant testing.

Sadly not all farmers are 'respondible' people.

Plenty of chemicals in the meat we eat anyway, Not that I think that's acceptable, but the EU has done little to change the 'rules' re worming of animals, use of prophylactic antibiotics, and so on. And it's just as bad with many of our vegetables.

So it's up to us to make sure things change for the better. Or do some people think we are incapable of that?

UK guidance;

www.gov.uk/guidance/cattle-health#hormonal-treatments-and-antibiotics-for-cattle

Sorry to bring up politics but when we leave the EU, I assume this law could change? Scary thought.
I am not sure - will they have to enshrine the good into UK law or just 'pick and mix' and keep what they like, discard what they don't like?
Presumably they will have to go through everything.

Unless it was enshrined in British law too?

I read somewhere some time ago about the amount of female contraceptive hormones in drinking water, but cannot find the reference at the moment.

Lots of laws and regulations could, potentially be changed. I can only think of one EU policy that I disagree with and that is the one banning genetically modified crops. But where food is concerned anyone trading with the EU has to follow their line e.g. hormones in beef.

Sorry to bring up politics but when we leave the EU, I assume this law could change? Scary thought.
I don't have much experience of teenage girls (except my own youth!) but I do think that it always just comes down to healthy eating but people whatever age are always looking for a quick fix solution.
I do think you're right that calcium is very important though. Good luck Stansgran

Thank you I will have a look at that article. I think she can easily get the wrong end of the stick at that age and her father is obsessive about sugar fat and the horrors of English food. They love our food and especially jelly!

There is another thread where this was discussed and I think hormones are given to cows in the USA to increase production, but it is banned here (probably under EU law) as JessM and others have said

Does your DGD live in the States? If not, the milk should be OK here, especially if she drinks organic.

She could drink organic milk.

DS2, who used to drink milk by the pint, seldom had any spots; his brother who was not a big milk drinker, did have spots, though the worst ones were on his back. That was 30 - 40 years ago, so the contents of milk may have changed since then.

There used to be a spot related thing that 'fatty' products cause spots. As does sugar. She needs a well balanced diet and you are so right, she needs her calcium, and iron too if she's having periods now. I would tell her you've looked it up and semi skimmed is fine. Then buy her some witch hazel and give her lots of fruit and veg too. Water, lots of water. At that age, they drink coca cola. Full of sugar and rots the bones and teeth. I will stand corrected on hormones in milk if anyone has any evidence but I grew up in a houseful of childen and we all drank milk. Some were spotty (me) some weren't (my step sisters) so some things are hereditary it seems but can be managed with good skin regime and good diet. And, tell her this, I'm having the last laugh now, as I have no wrinkles!