Trust Me I'm a Doctor

Well there you go Tegran, if you live long enough you will shrink to a dot.

I just had a livewell health check and my bad cholesterol is quite high but my good cholesterol balances it out. Down to, according to the nurse, a healthy lifestyle and diet. I must admit to being someone that embraces the latest health fads but not if it's going to break the bank to do so. Agree totally about regular eye/teeth/bp checks etc. Our bodies have to work so hard to stop us getting ill and protecting us from disease; I just feel that anything we can do to help our immune system along can only be a good thing [even if it means an occasional fast to give everything a bit of a holiday]. As I said to the nurse today; I'm going to live forever or die in the attempt. I have shrunk an inch though .

Jing, I assumed it was re my comment.

Jing, if it worked, I would shout it from the rooftops, but don't hold your breath. (but then again it works for rabbits)

I have that in one eye. Grandson threw football at my head. Hard. Got a few floaters. Nothing else though.

that was to wb, concerning the threat in his last sentence

I do have an eye test every 12 months as I have viscous detachment in both eyes, which luckily did not take the retinas with it.

please don't

Well, I'm one of the people who believe that the supplements work as I've had good experiences myself. I've got the beginnings of cataracts and was suffering with glare problems in bright sunlight. The summers of 2014 and 2015 I really struggled. However, I put myself on Visual Eyes which contain Lutein and Zeaxanthin, and this summer I have had almost no problem with glare ... and in fact because my eyes seemed as normal as they used to be, I had forgotten my previous problems, and suddenly realised I no longer had to squint in bright sunlight.

MargaretX Pharmaceutical companies can't patent these supplements, hence they will not market them as they couldn't earn money from them.

I collapsed with M.E. 26 years ago, and was bedridden for 2 years with no cure via conventional medicine. Fortunately I was brought up to be open-minded and tried various alternative therapies, hand-in-hand with nutrition and supplements. One has to be discerning, of course, and I am no fool, but some of these things do indeed work, and the key (especially now we have the Net, whereas 26 years ago I only had the library!) is to do your research.

For me a 25% chance of improvement is well worth taking, what you were told is similar to my optician. I do have early signs of dry AMD.

As it happens , I have already planted kale in my veg plot, so I will experiment to see if the improvements in North Germany also work here, I will keep you posted if things look up.

I've just come back from my eye check and asked the optician if it was worth taking supplements.

He said not unless you had very early signs of MD, in which case the evidence suggested that taking supplements would reduce the chance of it getting worse by 25%.

In other words, taking supplements won't prevent MD starting, and if you do have early-stage MD, it won't guarantee to arrest it.

I think the answer is to always go for checks regularly so that anything that's wrong can be picked up and hopefully treated at an early stage.

It's interesting that kale could improve my performance in bed, but why only in North Germany ?.

It doesn't claim to cure it, just slow down the development. My optician recommended me to take it last time I saw her, perhaps, she too is gullible.

Sorry Degeneration

My what a lot of gullible people there are around. If there were substances that could cure Macular Gegeneration it would have already made millions for the pharmacutical industry.

My friend in the states said that if discovered very early there are injections, but as far as I know dark fruit and veg won't help.

Kale is well known in North Germany for improving men's performance in bed.

90 days supply cost me £36 at Boots.

I would be very cautios baout buying any drugs/medicne from eBay, you really don't know who the seller is and if the product is genuine. I would only buy online from a known seller like Boots etc.

Thank you Tegan

Tegan, the MacuShield I purchased on Ebay contains meso-zeaxanthin 10mg, zeaxanthin 2mg and Lutein 10mg. They are sold by an optician who invites direct purchase if you wish.
www.intereyecareopticians.co.uk
Below is the Ebay ad, I see the price has gone up already!
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282139607870?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
The capsules look the same as those taken by M Mosely. I have started them, but of course will have no way of knowing if they are working! There is a 'Gold' version available which has other content like zinc, but I decided against.

Just ordered some online from Boots to be sent to our local litttle boots store. Online they had a 3 for 2 offer.

Macu Shield is back on the shelves at Boots; it seems to be the only one that has the extra Zeathanthin in it, although the all singing all dancing very expensive Macu Shield Gold has ingredients that aren't necessary.

I was prescribed Vit Eyes by my ophthalmology consultant. There is only an 18%-20% chance that MD will not deteriorate to blindness but I am willing to try anything.
Vit Eyes consists of:
Vit C 500mg
vit E 400 mg
Zinc 25mg
Copper 2 mg
Lutein(from marigold flower) 10mg
Zeaxanthin 2mg

ann please do ask the next time you are seen at the clinic. A friend of mine has wet MD which is being treated as you are. She was also prescribed Vit Eyes when her MD was dry but now that it is wet she has been told that they will be of no use.

Interesting link Anya; thanks for that. I used to work for a doctor who had sadly lost his wife to cancer, and the whole family made a point of eating broccoli every day. He was quite sceptical of many things but adamant that the broccoli safeguarded them. With regards to cataracts, I think I heard once that wearing sunglasses can protect against them but the body needed a certain amount of sunlight to work with certain vitamins. So difficult to get the balance right. If only we could all move to a Mediterranean island and eat lots of fresh produce and olive oil every day. Maybe the NHS could ship us all over to one; it could be cost effective in the long term!

The glucosamine one will interest me. I took it for many years because of arthritis but have now learned that it can bring on conditions such as Dupuytrens and Ledderhose, both of which I suffer from. I wonder if that will be mentioned during the programme. I did see the Macu Shield on ebay but am still wary of buying things off the internet. shysal, can you tell me the ingredients when yours arrive? The ones I have contain lutein 10mg, Zeoxanthin [sp] 2mg but not the other Zeoxanthin that was mentioned.

I have had wet AMD for 15 months now and have been under the care of a lovely consultant all that time.. He has been treating me with injections and has referred me to a Professor at Manchester eye Hospital and I have also seen another consultant there as I have been found to have Polipoidal choroidal vasculopathy (polyps behind the retina). No-one has suggested supplements to me but I shall certainly ask when I go next time.