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Is obesity a class thing?

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RosieLeah Fri 14-Jul-17 06:45:28

We are told a lot about the dangers of obesity, and quite right too. (We are talking about the seriously overweight, not mere plumpness). I have noticed though, that it seems to be those lower down the social scale that have this problem. It is obviously not a question of money, as the people are clearly able to afford to buy plenty of food. It seems that it is all a question of pride in oneself. People who are obese choose to be so. Our weight is one of the few things we can control. I'm trying to be diplomatic here and not cause offence, but I think you can see what I'm implying. I know that depression can cause some people to over-eat, then being overweight causes more depression and you get into a cycle. I'm just wondering whether I'm correct in thinking that those who are obese and are careless about their appearance tend to be from the lower classes in our society.

TriciaF Fri 14-Jul-17 18:13:18

I'm beginning to think it's something to do with addiction to fatty and sugary foods.
We get a religious weekly newspaper, with has a women's supplement which has recipes.I've written to them twice about the amount of fattening/addictive ingredients in these recipes such as different types of sugar in savoury dishes, and tomato sauce etc. And meat etc fried instead of baked etc.
I know that many young people in this community are becoming obese and addicted to 'nosh'.
I wouldn't call them low down the social scale either.

mimiro Fri 14-Jul-17 18:33:46

ninny
first i was not making excuses
just pointing out that oj and coke have the same calories.
second the nearest real store to were i live is 11k away.
there is no public transportation.
as for aldis and similar the nearest is 46k.

and i say again education is key to bad choices when you have money and working around when you are low income.

as for diet coke af any kind it is incredablly bad for you along with most artificially sweetened foods.
i don't drink cokes
i have to buy frozen fruit and veg since its 6-9 weeks between grocery shopping.
and no there is no delivery here either.
i live on 555 pounds a month including my mortgage.i am 5'7 inches tall and weigh 63 kilos.
i eat well
i have spent years educating the people who come to our foodbank.

mimiro Fri 14-Jul-17 19:45:58

op thank you for triggering memories

mimiro Fri 14-Jul-17 19:47:26

am off to give lessons to familys in need.
and remembered some cookbooks packed away

Cherrytree59 Fri 14-Jul-17 21:01:09

I have noticed that the under 25s seem to be going to the gym or running/cycling much more than previous generations.
When passing our local senior school you very rarely see many overweight boys or girls.
Nor do I see any smoking whereas when my DS & DD were at senior school there were quite a few of the older ones walking along road with a 'fag'
I think drinking habits are also changing amongst the young

Maybe for our DGC the message is getting through.
Here's hoping smile

ninny Fri 14-Jul-17 21:36:29

mimiro sorry if I misread your post.

Jalima1108 Fri 14-Jul-17 21:41:53

I'm overweight but not obese.

It must be the wine wot does it, I'm afraid, as we eat very healthily. Or perhaps it is my social class (one up from the lowest class as I am not obese, just what DH would call 'pleasantly plump').
hmm

Actually, just read mumofmadboys's post and decided that it is genetics. smile

Jalima1108 Fri 14-Jul-17 21:46:27

anniebach I am a Sunday's child.

Bonny - does that mean plump?

MissAdventure Fri 14-Jul-17 21:53:26

I'm quite fat, but then I live on a council estate so it isn't my fault. wink

kitlong Wed 19-Jul-17 10:27:56

Sorry to join in a few days late - I'm too fat to bend over to plug the charger for the laptop in, had to wait for a skinny family member to come and do it for me. I just hate the way that skinny people seem to think that being fat equals not having pride in oneself/self respect etc. I'm fat because I enjoy food. I don't drink, don't smoke but do eat anything I fancy. I also dress well, bathe daily (yep, even though apparently fat people don't wash), have my hair done every month and am (very) highly educated. I have no illness or health problems (GP insists on full bloods whatever I go there with)- I am completely fit, healthy AND fat. Obese fat. Not a little bit fat but a lot fat. My advice is worry about yourself and no-one else and eat more as fat people wrinkle less!

Cherrytree59 Wed 19-Jul-17 11:31:58

People are people
They come in all shape, size & colour.
However they also come with an ability and thought process that is as individual as a finger print.

Kitlong to be truly happy with one's self is an achievement indeed.

Anya Wed 19-Jul-17 11:48:17

But kitlong doesn't it worry you that your obesity is preventing you doing everyday things?

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Jul-17 15:44:19

Well, if it worries kitlong it won't show because she won't have any frown lines wink

I am trying to lose weight but am worried that I may suddenly get a lot of wrinkles.

Baggs Wed 19-Jul-17 16:08:22

That's an interesting definition of "completely fit".

My frown lines are quite faint (as yet). I like them; they show that I puzzle over things and think about stuff, not that I'm an angry person.

M0nica Wed 19-Jul-17 16:16:54

When I was about 5 we moved from London to Carlisle. There we lived on the edge of what would then be called a working class suburb. I immediately noticed how many fat women I saw at the bakers. In my innocence I asked my mother why. The answer was that it was because they were poor.

Later I realised that at a time when money was tight and most of the family budget went on food. The priority was first give the husband, usually the only wage earner, good food to keep him well and in work, then feed the children, the women lived on what was left and filled up with bread and margarine, spread with sugar, because it was cheap.

Those on low incomes make poor food choices because they are the cheapest and easiest.

kitlong Wed 19-Jul-17 21:08:11

Anya - what makes you think I am prevented from doing "everyday things". What is it that you immediately assume that I cant do? This is what I find so odd about others who judge. If by "everyday things" you mean shopping, housework, walking the dog, going on holidays (yes, even on an aeroplane), working, gardening, driving, meeting friends, singing in a choir etc etc etc then nope, no "everyday things" prevented here. I was a dancer many moons ago and am still able to touch my toes. Oh and I've also just re-painted the ceilings all up the stairs in my 4 storey house. I'm not fat because of my class/finances, I'm fat because I love food. I still do everything that anyone else does, and possibly more so please don't worry about me (smile). I've typed smile in brackets here so hope there's a smiley face!

Anya Wed 19-Jul-17 21:16:41

You said yourself you couldn't bend down far enough to plug in a charger.....???

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Jul-17 21:18:42

I don't think she was being serious ....

[ ] these kind of brackets kitlong

Anya Wed 19-Jul-17 21:37:38

Oh, she was lying being funny? What parts do we believe then? Perhaps she's not fat then wink

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Jul-17 21:39:59

My charger is on the wall above table height, no effort at all.
It does help, otherwise my fat tummy could get in the way of plugging it in

PamelaJ1 Wed 19-Jul-17 21:56:16

It must be all to do with the type of food.
When we were young and poor we depended on leek and potato soup ( home made of course) nice and healthy. Nowadays I suppose it would be a very cheap ready meal full of sugar and unhealthy fats.

Anya Wed 19-Jul-17 22:46:35

Leek and potato soup? There's posh! We had to settle for a jeely piece ?

Nelliemoser Wed 19-Jul-17 22:47:04

PaddyAnn I think your analysis of this is pretty accurate.

If you are in a difficult situation with lots of stress and no chance of changing things, because of lack of rescoures you will feel depressed and demoralised and eating comfort food might help you feel better.

You never know what has happened in other peoples lives to push them into these situations.

Jalima1108 Wed 19-Jul-17 22:58:51

You were lucky Anya wink
I got bread and butter with sugar as a treat from my DGM
At least DM said it was butter but I bet it was marge.

Anya Thu 20-Jul-17 06:39:52

Ah ha! You say that was your treat - that was my lunch! And now butter or even marge on it, just bread and jam. You must have been one of the rich kids Jalima ?