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"Managing " continence, pads, pull ups, catheters and catheter bags.

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MawBroon Thu 07-Sept-17 20:38:46

Thank you Elainel that is something nobody had told us. Very useful.

ElaineI Thu 07-Sept-17 19:49:25

For retraining MawBroon you can get valves instead of a leg bag. They attach to the end of the catheter and you then open the valve (into bucket or toilet) every 2 to 4 hours depending on how far in the retraining you are. They allow the bladder muscle to become stronger and not lose it's tone. Some people choose them from the start. The district nurse or continence nurse should be able to order them.

midgey Thu 07-Sept-17 19:37:21

If you use an 'overnight' catheter bag...the best advice we were given was to make sure you put it in a bucket! Hopefully you will have been given a night stand, bung all of it in some kind of container because one day the bag will leak! You will soon get the hang of all the kerfuffle and it will be second nature. Fingers crossed for success with retraining. The very best of luck.

aggie Thu 07-Sept-17 19:25:46

Yes the District Nurse is a great source of help and information , we have a Continence Nurse who calls as soon as we ask

MissAdventure Thu 07-Sept-17 17:52:05

grin
Another thing I have just thought of is to just be aware that there shouldn't be any leakage from where the tube goes in. So, if you feel any wet patch it would be wise to call the district nurse. A tiny bit can sometimes sort itself out, but more than that could be a sign that its not working properly. Its not a real emergency, but does need seeing to.

MawBroon Thu 07-Sept-17 17:47:37

That was her story and she was sticking to it grin

MissAdventure Thu 07-Sept-17 17:46:20

Yep. You have to wrap both arms around and cuddle them!

MawBroon Thu 07-Sept-17 17:44:11

Today's carer commented that you can get very friendly with patients/clients trying to fix the belt bit of a Tena Flex grin

MissAdventure Thu 07-Sept-17 17:32:33

It really isn't a big deal, maw, once you're used to it. I wouldn't be surprised if Phillip uses one. You can get sheath catheters, that go on like a condom - needs nice warm hands around it to stick it in place though!

MawBroon Thu 07-Sept-17 17:29:07

missAdventure gringrin
Predictive text is the devil isn't it?I find it hard to follow its logic!
I suppose I just want reassurance that it is really no big deal and that some people cope and you'd never guess!
(Do you reckon the D of E has one at long engagements? For instance that ghastly water pageant a couple of years ago? )

Luckygirl Thu 07-Sept-17 16:47:16

MissAdventure - very witty - hanging around....grin

I cannot advise Maw but wish you well with this new challenge and hope that there will be lots of helpful advice forthcoming for you both.

MissAdventure Thu 07-Sept-17 16:44:04

One thing to remember is not to stretch the tube which goes down the leg: its tempting to try and secure it in a place that looks neat or comfortable. Do remember what it is attached to! I've seen one stretched down to tuck into one poor mans sock!

aggie Thu 07-Sept-17 16:34:31

I only had to empty the bag at night before I went to bed , as he "saves" pee for nights ! It was easy enough to drain inti the bucket , but the trick was remembering to close the tap or ........ He had an external catheter but had to give up on that and now it is full pads which the girl/carers change . Sorry not to be of more help

MissAdventure Thu 07-Sept-17 16:16:01

You'll be able to do it, maw. I have dealt with a lot of catheter care, having worked as a carer for years. Is there anything particular which is worrying you?
By the way, my predictive text wrote that I had worked as a 'scarf' for years. Not a bad job, but a lot of hanging around..

Norah Thu 07-Sept-17 16:14:19

I have nothing, except admiration to your diligence and hope to retraining. flowers

MawBroon Thu 07-Sept-17 16:08:36

Oh well, trying again.

MawBroon Thu 07-Sept-17 14:48:24

Paw has come home after a total of 8 weeks in hospital, in the course of which, because of kidney issues, his fluids were monitored and he had a catheter.
Unfortunately, all those weeks of a "lazy" bladder has led to him being incontinent of urine.
'T 'other" is not as bad but he had 2 weeks of diarrhoea and C. Diff before he came out and , shall we say, when he "has to go" there isn't always a lot of warning. And because his mobility has plummeted and he can only walk VERY slowly using a walking frame - well you get the picture!
So he has come out with a long term catheter, but we are hoping that as he gets stronger and possibly more mobile he can "retrain" his bladder, if 70 is not too late to teach the old dog new tricks. The pads (Tena Flex) are for security in case the poo comes in a rush.
Last night's carer very kindly fixed up the night extension bag, and the District Nurse this morning supervised me detaching it. I have also emptied his leg bag once but don't feel very confident yet.
So I am hoping for advice, the fruits of experience, disaster stories, hints and tips or anything at all which will reassure me that I am not alone in this and I CAN cope!