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do my friends south of the border have opinions on this?

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paddyann Mon 22-Jan-18 13:39:46

thankfully it doesn't affect us in Scotland ...not while we have control of our own NHS
What are Accountable Care Organizations?
They are the end of the National Health Service as we know it, and they will begin three months from now.

tanith Mon 22-Jan-18 13:48:15

I have only read a brief article but would be highly suspicious myself. It another Americanism we can well leave to the Americans .

Charleygirl Mon 22-Jan-18 13:52:44

I have never heard of it but reading between the lines we pay for our care.

paddyann Mon 22-Jan-18 14:08:24

so why is there no outrage about the decision to allow this or has everyone just given up because its a waste of time ...Hunt must have had some disagreement about allowing this ?

Scribbles Mon 22-Jan-18 14:19:45

This looks to me like a very good idea which someone should have had a long time ago. There's a decent explanation here:
www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/accountable-care-explained

Luckygirl Mon 22-Jan-18 14:21:10

I too cannot understand why there is not an outcry. In theory they make sense, as the idea is that social and medical care should tie up and co-operate. However there is nothing to stop them being farmed out to private organisations.

Luckygirl Mon 22-Jan-18 14:26:27

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-hunt-sarah-wollaston-nhs-privatisation-health-social-care-accountable-care-organisations-a8168571.html

These are the concerns.

Teetime Mon 22-Jan-18 14:37:52

One of the central aims is for the NHS and Social Services to work together. I worked in a joint unit several years ago as part of o pilot reorganisation. It didn't really work as the funding was not joined up and neither side were willing to give up any 'territory'. Perhaps this system will make that happen. It is another reorganisation which always costs time and money, there have been so many.

Jalima1108 Mon 22-Jan-18 14:46:54

The language of accountable care comes from the US, where accountable care organisations (ACOs) were set up under President Obama’s health reforms in an attempt to improve care and reduce growing costs.
Presumably this is what Trump wanted to get rid of - so can it be a bad idea?

In theory it sounds very reasonable but constant reorganisation of any organisation is what drains so much money which could be better used elsewhere.

I would have to look into it more before commenting further.

NotTooOld Mon 22-Jan-18 15:22:58

It looks very open to confusion and the possibility of falling between two stools. Something needs to be done, though, so perhaps it's worth a try. Why does no-one stand up and say the problems in the NHS are due to there being too many people using it? I'm not being racist or anti-immigration here (I hope) but it seems obvious to me that that is the case. We therefore need fewer people or more money. Come on government, get it sorted.

Welshwife Mon 22-Jan-18 18:30:43

Is this the change which is taking place in Devon? I have seen a report and thought it looked like a big step towards partially privatising the NHS.

Wally Mon 22-Jan-18 19:10:42

Must be honest I didn't really know about this. Why hasn't it been broadcast and displayed more so as to give the public time to discuss it. It must not be allowed to be sneaked in.