Black dog gang

Annie I don't know enough about terminology but couldn't clinical depression be the result of reactive depression? I can see it wouldn't work the other way round and maybe I am misunderstanding but I have clinical and think it started by reacting. No one has ever explained it to me though.

Lisa I was speaking of 1971 not now, a lot of life changes for all in that time.

It’s good you are seeking help from your GP Clare

I was diagnosed with Complex PTSD over 10 years ago and went into denial about it.
I chose to see the depression and anxiety that go hand in hand as reactions to whatever stressors happened to be around and have spent much energy managing the symptoms and hiding them from pretty much everyone most of the time.
I am a trained mental health professional, so you'd think I'd know better.
It's all become too much and I am seeing my GP tomorrow and will take the pills.
To those advising a 'positive mental attitude' stop it! It's bad enough struggling out of bed and occasionally into a shower right now. Right now, it's a good day if I manage to do both.
Telling someone to think positively, count your blessings, exercise etc is basically telling them that they are bringing the depression upon themselves due to a bad attitude and laziness and helps feed the feelings of isolation,guilt and inadequacy. It's cruel, ignorant and disrespectful and helps feed the stigma.
I know that right now I am ill. I also know that in time I will feel better. That is what I'm holding on to right now. It's a shitty illness not a choice. Who would choose to feel sad and terrified all the time?

Annie good circle of friends - do you no longer have that?

wot being caring doesn’t stop one from being a plonker ?, x

Nonnie I think my problems surfaced in a heap following my daughters death but caused by several events in life.

And there is reactive depression and clinical depression, I have not experienced clinical depression, the nearest I have experienced is post natal depression , healthy babies , loving husband, happy home life , good circle of friends , why depressed ? Hormones gone berserk?

Annie I was told I was not mentally ill, I was suffering form normal grief and that they were different. I think the difference is that we learn to cope with grief over time and eventually have a nearly normal life. When one is clinically depressed it is more complicated.

Annie your list of illnesses could well be parts of one overall illness and, as you suggest, have one cause. Not that I know enough about it but it has become more than grief in my opinion.

Annie, it hasn't stopped you being a lovely caring person!! Xx

Thank you Katy

wot no I got the day wrong, I thought today was Tuesday ! duh

nonnie depression is listed in the ‘Circle of Grief’ .
I doubt there will be a programme which covers all mental health problems. Nadia spoke of Anxiety, William of depression,

I am struggling with anxiety, OCD, Depression, Eating didorder , agoraphobia, resulting from my daughters death

OurKid that all sounds quite positive, digging is therapeutic. I decided to come off my meds and did it very, very slowly. I was fine for a couple of weeks but then...............

allas bullying in the workplace is horrible and I have a feeling that HR departments are not really there for the staff but to protect the company so it must be very difficult.

Good luck wot

nanny sleeping with the cat sounds very soothing.

Anyone else watch the Prince William thing last night? He was very good but it would appear he is confusing grief with mental health issues. I do hope one of these programmes makes points which relate to us.

I did experience a bit of workplace bullying. I moved to a new office within the organisation I worked in for over 30 years. A woman there took an instant dislike to me and made my life pretty difficult. She wasn't my boss but was a higher grade. I did mention it to a boss, but he said 'well we've never had a problem with her before.' She did many awful things, trying to get me into trouble and many horrible comments. One that springs to mind was one day it was cold in the office. I offered her my cardigan. She replied 'I'd rather freeze'. Many many more. Fortunately she left (under a cloud).

Thanks, Annie but I made a mistake about the appointment date! It's tomorrow at 2.10. I m somehow not worried about seeing the doctors but I get all anxious the day before, like will I remember everything and the timings for getting there, what to wear and all that palaver. Thankfully, Ive got a lift. (ex partners ex wife, now a friend)

A poster has asked if anyone has experience of bullying in the workplace, has anyone please ?

Good morning Annie how are you this morning? How’s your knee? Yesterday was a kind day. Had a good night but not so good this morning. I am going to get on with my day I want it to be like yesterday.. ?
thoughts wot hope all goes well. ?

hope it goes well wot xxx

morning. Feeling positive (ish) today. I decided to sleep in with my other cat last night. I sometimes do this as he has his own bedroom due to one of my dogs chasing him all the time...no clue why as they were best friends once..My cat loves it..you can feel him purring when hes tucked in behind my knees. I love it too he is my boy i bottle fed him from 7 days old and we have a huge bond.

Good morning all friends x

Yesterday was a kind day for some of us

Good thoughts for wot today she has her hospital appointment

Aww bless you constant pain errr!! Do you know Annie I have not had a bad at all, had a few moments but they past hope tomorrow brings the same..
good night all sleep well ?

nanny ?. No it will not , I expect to see you giving advice
on the gardening thread , you go for it x

Annie...if it's anything like my cooking skills expect a "what the hell happened there" post

Joce she could stay just for this morning she had to swat for an exam tomorrow. But it was so joyful seeing her , three weeks without her !

How are you ? My knee hurts , it will untill I have the x ray and they csn see the damage.

A good day, Sparkle planning lunch out tomorrow.

nanny giving thought to growing veg, we can expect a post telling us ‘I have won a prize for the biggest marrow ?

Diolch Sparkle ?

Tranquillisers caused me to be anxious , I was prescribed them for shock, years later accepted as PTS. Then for post natal depression and again for grief and shock when ny husband died, as I have said before ‘mothers little helpers’

When my darling daughter died 16 months ago it was a terrible shock, her poor husband was in bits, he was prescribed 2mg Valium for 5 days only , to help him sleep, when my husband died I was put on 4 x 10mg a day and a repeat prescription! Thank God this has stopped.

thats brilliant annie thank you. its just the info i needed xx

Hi Annie is your knee any better today.. how’s your day been with your granddaughter?

nanny do try gardening, I will post a link to a site about gardening with arthritis, and chickens wow.

www.arthritisresearchuk.org/~/media/Files/Arthritis-information/Living-with-arthritis/Gardening%20%20Arthritis%202014%2013-2.ashx

Hi ourkid I have been on Prozac for years now, I have come off them but had to go back.. I always say they do nothing for me but my daughters say different.. Annie is right don’t just stop.. I think wether they are working or not I am not stopping them again it scares me in case I get any worse..