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Scots dementia expert says coronavirus outbreak could be 'quite useful' as it will kill off hospital bed blockers

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Baggs Sat 07-Mar-20 11:23:33

There are some interesting statistics shown too, which seem to suggest that Scotland has a bigger problem in this area than England.

Baggs Sat 07-Mar-20 11:22:25

That old people and especially those with dementia are a nuisance and a drain on society and that if they die from coronavirus it will be a blessing for everyone else

I don't think that ⬆️ is the implication at all. What was also said is that it is because we don't do things (look after old people with dementia) properly already that hospital bed blocking is a problem. The speaker says higher taxes are needed to sort out proper social care. She's making a political point. Of course the example is horrific. She says that too. But it's also, possibly, the truth, whether we like it or not.

BlueBelle Fri 06-Mar-20 20:56:14

I think nature does have a way every now and then of sorting the world out and do you know if my numbers on the cloud so be it

janeainsworth Fri 06-Mar-20 20:42:17

It isn’t the stating of the obvious that’s upsetting Trisher, it’s the implications of what she said that are offensive.
That old people and especially those with dementia are a nuisance and a drain on society and that if they die from coronavirus it will be a blessing for everyone else angry

lavenderzen Fri 06-Mar-20 20:27:47

How disgraceful. RCN - says it all!

SirChenjin Fri 06-Mar-20 20:24:33

If you’re in a position like Prof Andrew’s then no, you’re not supposed to say things like that off the cuff at a SG audit meeting.

sodapop Fri 06-Mar-20 20:22:01

However this has been mooted before and is a theory often trotted out when there is this type of crisis.

trisher Fri 06-Mar-20 20:20:05

Apparently you are not supposed to state the obvious now because it upsets some people.

SirChenjin Fri 06-Mar-20 20:11:47

She is however an adviser to the national Dementia Services Development Trust and an expert on all things dementia related. I hope that Words are now being had with her.

Apparently she’s now claiming her comments were “ironic” hmm. For someone with such a high profile in dementia services you’d have thought she’d have had the common sense to know that her comments were not going to go down well.

Taichinan Fri 06-Mar-20 19:57:47

I suppose she could have a point - but it's a point best left unsaid - better still, unthought!

paddyanne Fri 06-Mar-20 19:39:01

She doesn't have any filters ,does she.I too have come across her before and she is very old schoo;l in her attitudes.However she is an EX employee of NHS Scotland so I dont think we need worry about her

EllanVannin Fri 06-Mar-20 19:31:02

Yes, I read that this morning which got me thinking whether this virus had " escaped " on purpose to see off the high-riskers.
Germ warfare and all that.

SirChenjin Fri 06-Mar-20 18:26:50

Neither it was lemon, no idea why. Thanks for that link jane.

I have had dealings with Prof Andrews in a previous role and she is very - how shall I put it - forthright.

janeainsworth Fri 06-Mar-20 18:23:41

www.heraldscotland.com/news/18284610.coronavirus-pandemic-clear-bed-blocking-people-taken-system/
Try this link.
What chilling words from a woman who was Scottish Secretary of the Royal College of Nursing. sadangry

lemongrove Fri 06-Mar-20 18:23:16

Although my comment is based on your OP as your link isn’t blued.

lemongrove Fri 06-Mar-20 18:21:50

Charming!

SirChenjin Fri 06-Mar-20 18:18:47

Interesting choice of words from Prof Andrews who has caused quite a stir.

What do you think?

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18286627.watch-former-nursing-chiefs-horrific-coronavirus-bed-blocking-comments/