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ExD Thu 02-Jul-20 16:27:29

Forgot the link
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213971/Woman-caught-coronavirus-despite-self-isolating-believes-passed-bag-groceries.html

ExD Thu 02-Jul-20 16:24:28

Apart from in the Lakeland Ltd shop, I haven't seen anyone wearing a face shield* which is why I wondered of they gave better protection to the wearer. They certainly look more comfortable for working in (although staff of covid wards wear a mask and a shield).
If the risk is so small that you need to actually be coughed or sneezed on directly in order to get it - why has it spread to quickly round the whole world? There's a lot of conflicting talk about and nothing fully explained which is why I'm playing safe.
But I haven't gone as far as sanitising all my shopping piece by piece.
And what about the two 'shielding' ladies who thought they must have caught it from online deliveries?
I don't think anyone knows, they're just guessing.

MissAdventure Thu 02-Jul-20 09:27:44

It's compulsory, but not enforced.

Franbern Thu 02-Jul-20 09:22:11

There is so much mis-information and ignorance about this virus. Starting with the use of anti-bacterial things, - does not help, as this is a Virus!!!

It is not actually airborne, which is why people are so much at less risk of cross-infection when outdoor - yet, people seem scared to open their windows - when airing their rooms out would be better, than covering everything indoors with bleach, etc.

So, with masks. The normal non-medical standard masks are easily available - they can be purchased on-line and in most pharmacies and supermarkets. These are thought mainly to protect the wearer from passing on anything if they cough and sneeze. There may be a small residual amount of protection for the wearer if they actually come into contact with someone with this virus and get coughed or sneezed at by the person.

In enclosed places, such as underground trains, and buses it can do no harm to wear these, (it is now actually compulsory). In large stores, where there is reasonable social distancing the chances of someone with this virus actually being close enough, for long enough to someone else in that store to pass anything on is minimal, whereas in small shops wearing a mask may be of some help.

No idea why people where them when they are outside, or sitting in their own cars. Perhaps people see them as some sort of magic talisman.

Gingergirl Thu 02-Jul-20 09:13:38

It’s my understanding that a mask is relevant only when you cough or sneeze and likely to project your breath and bodily discharges forcibly into the distance. That’s why they’re recommended on public transport and if very close to someone. Personally I wouldn’t recommend a face shield. It’s important to have regular contact with the ‘outside’ world when possible so that we can build up our natural immunity...not just to covid. Otherwise, we will risk becoming unwell in a number of ways when we drop all the ‘protection’. Fear is a big issue....gently does it.

ExD Wed 01-Jul-20 19:29:34

Well I am over 80 but not specially at risk though. Are the shields scarce? I haven't looked into buying one, but no - I wouldn't want to buy one if they're in short supply and thus prevent a care worker having one.
But like Miss Adventure, I look around I see all the selfish people on public in the supermarkets and small shops, without any face covering, uncaring as to whether they might be infectious, and there I am (who hasn't been out of the house till last week, wearing a mask protecting them ...... but if the mask doesn't protect me why am I bothering?
(they are uncomfortable I agree, these nurses and carers are heroes).
Hence the question (I hadn't realised professionals didn't have enough. I see staff at Lakeland Ltd have them.

BlueSky Wed 01-Jul-20 19:21:53

Why or why don't they make such a simple step compulsory? Masks on public transport or no public transport, masks in shops or no shops!

MissAdventure Wed 01-Jul-20 14:43:21

When I use public transport, I stick to the mandatory requirement to wear a mask.

When there are others on there who aren't wearing them, I've been thinking at least I've a little protection.

Then one day I thought "what if it's putting me, the rule follower at more risk?"

MerylStreep Wed 01-Jul-20 14:41:07

All the people I've seen wearing them in cars have been old ( that's the people, not the masks) ?

PernillaVanilla Wed 01-Jul-20 14:33:11

ladymuck - They are probably care workers who only have a very limited allocation from their employers. they are advised to wear each mask for several care visits. If the employers are more caring towards their staff they provide a new mask fr each call.

ladymuck Wed 01-Jul-20 14:28:15

I've seen people wearing masks while alone in their cars. What is the point of that?

GagaJo Wed 01-Jul-20 14:26:11

I believe masks offer some protection. They also stop you touching your face. Much, much better if everyone wears them but there will always be selfish people around.

MawB Wed 01-Jul-20 14:14:07

I feel that any face shield available should be for people like key workers who are more at risk.
Of course there is nothing to stop you, but do you consider yourself to be at particular risk or are you getting paranoid?

MissAdventure Wed 01-Jul-20 13:22:51

I've been wondering about that, too, recently.

In the early days some reports suggested that having a damp mask on your face would make you more at risk.

ExD Wed 01-Jul-20 13:12:39

We are continually told a face mask only shields other people but not the wearer.
As a selfish person, I would like to protect myself from other people who do not wear masks. Is a face shield more likely to give this protection? I notice nurses in a covid ward wear both.