The Vaccine

Where has Ellie666 gone ? Once again an example of lob in a crazy theory and disappear.

I will have the vaccine. I don't want the virus. Full stop.

Daftbag1 It took me 5 minutes to disprove these assertions by "doing the research" they keep telling us about. The claims were made by the leader of the US organisation founding vaccine developments in that country, who cherry picked one piece of information that Oxford had already made public anyway. I wonder what his motives were and why it was reported in the Financial Times?

Your post is full of misunderstandings about how vaccines work and how they will be rolled out, but I really can't be bothered arguing about it any more. Believe what you like, but please stop posting this dangerous nonsense and trying to influence people who have valid concerns about their health.

I’ve just read Daftbags reasons for not having the vaccine and none of them make any sense.

growstuff

And I don't understand the fools who seem unaware of their own ignorance.

Go on then! Tell us all how many times a vaccine has been discovered, only for it all to go wrong because it wasn't tested enough. Go on! Name them!

And for your information, no medical intervention - ever - is 100% safe.

It really does seem one village is missing its idiot tonight - and a very rude one too.

There are a few instances of vaccines causing problems. It happened with the polio vaccine in 1955 and for the Rota-virus vaccine in 1998 (this was withdrawn in 1999). Then of course there' s the vaccinated strain of polio currently active in Africa and other poor countries.
It seems strange to me to post such complete rejection wthout even investigating.

Strange that no one seems to be dying of the normal seasonal flu anymore or, at least, I haven't been able to find any statistics for it. Also, the ones doing the testing for covid must come into contact with people who test positive multiple times a day, yet they continue working!! I won't be having the vaccine and haven't had the seasonal flu one either.

You can find the info here assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/923246/National_Influenza_report_1_October_2020_week_40.pdf
Almost 22000 by week 39 of 2020

trisher

You can find the info here assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/923246/National_Influenza_report_1_October_2020_week_40.pdf
Almost 22000 by week 39 of 2020

Thanks trisher You saved me a job,Qq where on earth do you get your ‘facts’ from?

You're welcome suziewoozie I usually just Google stuff. Sometimes you do need to add a few details like UK it will give me the US figures for everything!!!

OH and I will be having a vaccine the minute we are offered it Can't come soon enough

If you are interested in vaccines this is really informative. The length of time that it took to develop a vaccine after a virus was identified is interesting www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline#EVT_100774

I wonder if there will be fewer deaths from influenza this season because there has been a higher uptake of flu vaccine than in normal years.

trisher

If you are interested in vaccines this is really informative. The length of time that it took to develop a vaccine after a virus was identified is interesting www.historyofvaccines.org/timeline#EVT_100774

You're taking a chance posting that trisher.

I shall be watching the reactions with interest.

Don’t forget that people are also isolating, social distancing etc, which means the flu virus has less chance to spread.

That will certainly show up in the figures.

But Callistemon they're all scientists so interested in facts!

Don’t forget that people are also isolating, social distancing etc, which means the flu virus has less chance to spread.

Yes, good point.

Genuine question — I wonder how many of those saying they will not have the vaccine will have it when they realise that airlines are beginning to insist on it for their passengers (Qantas) and some countries will insist on proof of vaccination before being allowed entry? It might be a different story when they can’t have their holiday in the sun.

I do wonder if those refusing vaccine have ever received vaccination against other diseases, like polio, TB, etc?

We shouldn’t even really catch colds with no mixing, social distancing, masks, frequent hand washing etc (Those of us who can and will). Will be interesting to see what happens. Well not till after Christmas anyway!

Tweedle24

Genuine question — I wonder how many of those saying they will not have the vaccine will have it when they realise that airlines are beginning to insist on it for their passengers (Qantas) and some countries will insist on proof of vaccination before being allowed entry? It might be a different story when they can’t have their holiday in the sun.

Wouldn't make the slightest dfference to me. I wouldn't know for certain when the other passengers had been vaccinated so if they still carried immunity or if a long period had elapsed and their immunity had run out. I wouldn't want to be enclosed in a tight space on the off chance everyone was OK.

trisher You are right and many people will agree but, reading what a lot of people are saying on Fb, I can’t help wondering.

Callistemon

I wonder if there will be fewer deaths from influenza this season because there has been a higher uptake of flu vaccine than in normal years.

Matt Hancock said last week in Parliament that they were seeing fewer flu and respiratory infections than they’d normally expect this time of year.

Whitewavemark2

I do wonder if those refusing vaccine have ever received vaccination against other diseases, like polio, TB, etc?

If we're talking about older people on here, I expect they were children when they had those vaccinations and didn't have any choice.

There was no internet, no discussion and people did tend to be in more of those they thought knew more than them. Doctors were put on a pedestal in the 1950s.

Parents had seen the effects of polio or TB on children and were glad that there was a vaccine to prevent it in their own children.

Not in more (autocorrect)

In awe

Apologies if this has been asked before but what do those of you that don’t agree with the vaccine think we should do to get out of this pandemic and lead a normal life once more?